DTP,DSO, etc

Hi BI Gurus,
I have some basic questions ...1) When we use DSO and put infoobjects via Direct Input how we should identify this infoobject is key field i know my data fileds also (fiscal year vairant is one of the key field ) I mean its confusing for me.
2) Can any1 explain me the details of the three tabs of DTP i.e. EXtraction Update and Execute.

In continuation to Anil..
The importance of key fields in ods is that they are used for ods data update/change purpose, the delta capability ,so depending on your business requirement you can built data model to suit the needs
example as below
key fields ODS
The Tech details of Standard ODS / DSO in SAP DWH
<b>Write optimized DSO -</b>
In write optimized DSO the loaded data is not aggregated; the history of the data is retained. If two data records with the SAME logical key are extracted from the source, both records are saved in the DataStore object. The RECORD MODE responsible for aggregation remains, however, so that the aggregation of data can take place later in standard DataStore objects.
The system generates a unique technical key for the write-optimized DataStore object. The standard key fields are not necessary with this type of DataStore object. If standard key fields exist anyway, they are called semantic keys so that they can be distinguished from the technical keys.
The Technical key consists of the
Request GUID field (0REQUEST)
Data Package field (0DATAPAKID) and the
Data Record Number field (0RECORD).
Only new data records are loaded to this key.
Hope it Helps
Chetan
@CP..

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Hi
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Hi...
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Edited by: Prashant on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM

HI,
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hope it helps.
Thanks & Regards
krishna.y

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