Dual 500 mhz proc in a single proc mobo?

hi,
can i put a dual 500 mhz g-bit eithernet processor in a sawtooth 400 mhz single?
thanks

Some Sawtooth G4s can't use dual processors.
http://www.powerlogix.com/downloads/UniNorthASICChecker.sit
If your Uni-N chip is revision 7 or higher, you can use a dual.

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2nd hard drive for Dual 500 MHz Sawtooth

I have a G4 dual 500 MHz sawtooth with a 40 GB hard drive and 1 GB of RAM. I don't have any PCI slots left and I was hoping to add a second drive. Is this possible? Does this model have the ribbon and power supply for a second drive? I've been searching the discussions, but haven't found any info on this.
Also, is an ATA-133 drive fast enough for this model or could I put something in that's faster?

Hi, Al -
I have a G4 dual 500 MHz sawtooth...
A dual 500MHz G4 is not a Sawtooth model; the Sawtooths are the G4 (AGP) models.
Your dual 500MHz G4 is a Gigabit Ethernet model.
Yes, it does come pre-equipped to accept a second internal drive - the mounting sled, data cable connector, and power cable connector for it are already present.
The built-in controller is an ATA/66 controller. This means it has a hardware limit of not being able to 'see' more than 128GB of drive size. If a drive larger than that is connected, only 128GB of it will be available. This is a drive size limit, not a volume limit; partitioning will make no difference.
The new drive should be an ATA (or PATA, Parallel ATA) drive, not a SATA (Serial ATA) drive. Although the bus speed is ATA/66, newer drives are often ATA/100 or ATA/133 - that's okay, such a drive should work fine though it will operate at ATA/66 speed. Since that is the case, there is no advantage in paying extra for speeds in excess of ATA/66 - unless the plan is to be able to use it at a later time on a newer machine with a faster bus.
Typically the original drive will have been jumpered as Master. Set the jumpers on the new drive to Slave. Which drive is which makes little difference; the designations of Master and Slave are addresses, and do not establish a priority or preference - either can be used as the primary boot drive.
If your original drive happens to be a Western Digital, it may be using a third jumper setting, Single - this is often used by WD drives when it is the only device on the bus. If this is the case, it will need to have its jumpers reset to Master (or Slave, as desired) when adding a second drive.
When there are two devices on the bus, and Master and Slave are used, there can be only one of each.
Do not use Cable Select on that model G4.
Another option would be to use a firewire drive. Your machine is firewire bootable. Such drives offer a lot in convenience, in the ability to move them from one machine to another quickly.
Some cost savings in having a firewire drive can be achieved by purchasing a firewire drive enclosure (rather than a complete drive), then installing a relatively inexpensive ATA drive.

Can I install Tiger in a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4?

Can I install Tiger in a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4, or is it better to stick with 10.3.9? I'm having some problems so I was going to wipe he hard drive and re-build everything from scratch o I was wondering if migrating to OS X 10.4.9 is worthwhile or even compatible with this PCU. Thanks.

Yes you can run 10.4 on your dual 500, I have a dual 450 (I overclocked it to 550...) and it runs pretty fast. You need a minimum 192 MB of RAM to install it and a minimum 128 MB of RAM to run it. I would suggest having at least 512 MB of RAM when running 10.4.
What problems are you experiencing? If it's just lagging and seeming slow it may just be worthwhile to clean some temp files and clean up your disk. IMHO, 10.4 is a much better system than 10.3, and runs much smoother. I can guarantee you that your system will run much smoother if you wipe the disk clean and put a fresh install of 10.4 on there, and also get a decent amount of RAM in there. After I upgraded my RAM to 1.5 GB, I noticed a substantial difference in speed, and got a lot less spinning color wheels. But one thing that you need to always keep in mind is to KEEP YOUR DISK CLEAN!!! Clean the temp files often and limit your internet downloading. If you keep your computer on all of the time, restart it every once in a while. There's a lot of little things you can do to increase speed in OS 10.4. Use spotlight and recent applications. Fill up your dock. Don't clutter the desktop, etc. There's plenty of articles on the net to help increase speed without adding anything else to your system, just navigating through the OS differently.

Dual 1.25 ghz processor in a dual 500 mhz GBE?

I have a dual 500 mhz processor Gigabit-E G4. Would a 1.25 ghz processor from a MDD G4 physically fit in there and boot? I know the multiplier would be different, but if its just a little bit slower, that wouldnt be a big deal, because it would still be faster than the 500 mhz. Also, how much slower would it be?
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That is a little different question.
AGP Graphics through Digital Audio use a 3-lug mount and a 300-position rectangular data connector. The Digital Audio moves the processor socket to the back rail, where there is a lot more room for multiple processors, and replaces translucent shroud with fan assembly with the small black rubber fan assembly.
The Quicksilver and later use a 4-lug mount (the first three are compatible) where the fourth lug carries +12 Volt power. You might be able to use a processor as fast as the Dual 800 (top of the line \[original] QuickSilver) if you grabbed +12 Volts off a Hard drive Molex connector and bolted it to the fourth lug on the processor.
As far as I know, the 300-position rectangular data connector stays compatible. I have never seen articles suggestion you have to change stuff to move to a different group of processors, but you should check places like:
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com
I think they may have Here is a link to a guy who added a later processor to his Gigabit Ethernet, and had to make modifications (including removing the CD cable connector) to make room for the bigger processor.
http://homepage.mac.com/josephk/G4_mod.html
And a similar tutorial:
http://www.macopz.com/buildamac/index.html

Will my dual 500 go faster? Harddrive & external hard drive issues

I need some advise, please!
I have a Dual 500 MHz PowerPC G4. Memory: 1.38 GB SDRAM. Harddrive 40GB
The memory slots are a follows:
256MB
128MB
512MB
512MB
1. I would like to speed things up as it is sooo slooow! If I replace the 2 smaller cards with 512MB each will that make a substantial difference or not? I work mainly in PhotoshopCS so I am working with big files, and I am begining to get the feeling someone's sneaked OS6 on here when I was asleep - yes its that bad!!!
2. On start up I get a folder with a question mark in it. Not an immediate problem as it always finds the drive. However I have noticed that when I go to the disk utility to repair permissions the name of the drive in the left hand pane doesn't match the name of the drive on my desktop. Is this the cause? If so can you tell me how to solve it. My desktop harddrive is called MAC, the one showing in disk utilities is called disk0s9 ...that's a 0 not an O in disk0s9
3. Finally I shutdown my computer without ejecting the external formac 500GB harddrive first. On reboot this morning it says it doesn't recognise the disk and gives me the options to format, ignore, eject. Obviously I haven't tried formatting. I have tied all reboot senarios including restarting, shut down, both with and without the external drive plugged in, switched on/off to no avail. HOWEVER the external drive DOES work on my powerbook. How do I make it work again on my desktop computer? It seems to me to be the computer at fault not the external drive.
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Hilary-
Here's a doc to explain target mode:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58583
Should you not be able to restore DVR or ext. drive access, Target mode is a great option to have.
It sounds like you better get a copy of DiskWarrior FedEx'ed ASAP.
Like I mentioned previously, I think you have directory problems (and possibly worse). That would explain the question mark folder at start up, and the different ID for your internal drive. The internal drive, if the origional, is old, tired and wants a break.
I'm glad to hear you have a possible backup solution with the ext drive.
Don't delay.
Along with back up, I have some things I think you should try.
Because you have possible directory problems, I think it would be good to try a "safe boot". This explains how:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107393
This explains what safe boot is:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107392
Basically, you force the system to look at itself (directory check), and it simplifies the start up items. Note that some things don't work in safe mode, but you can check other items such as drives and FW.
Also, with the various devices not mounting, you might try a PRAM and NVRAM reset
This link explains doing so via the keyboard at start up
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238
If that doesn't help, reset the PMU. It's inside the computer, on the motherboard, back by the little battery (that should be replaced every year or so)
This link explains how to reset the PMU manually
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=95037
Doing the above may help to restore the DVD drive and the Firewire.
Also, when resetting the PMU, of course, shut down the computer, then, unplug ALL cords- power, USB, FW, etc. Also, don't pace around in stocking feet, or anything that causes static before reaching inside. Before unplugging the power cord from the back of the computer, touch the metal on the computer (this goes to ground) to safely discharge your built up static.
Most of all, don't panic. Be methodical, and you'll get through this.
Good Luck-
Chris
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Will a Built-in Modem pulled from a Dual 867mhz work in my DP 500 Mhz (Gigabyte Etherent) Mac?
The info on the modem is:
UO1MO85.00
The connectors are compatible, but I wasn't sure if the modem itself was.
I'm looking to start faxing with my computer which is why I need a modem.
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Unfortunately I think they may be right. For my internal modem the Apple System Profiler lists a number of regions including the UK. This seems to imply they're region specific and a modem from the US is unlikely to work. I expect the actual hardware is the same, but the firmware contained in the ROM on the modem card is different.
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G4 Dual 800 MHz - Upgrade capable from 10.3.9 to 10.5.6 Leopard?

I have seen a few similar questions to this topic but not exactly what I'm after so sorry if I am being redundant. I have a G4 (Quicksilver, I believe) dual 800 Mhz processer with 1GB SDRAM. Will this support an upgrade of the OS from 10.3.9 directly to 10.5.6? I'm mostly worried about speed and performance. My specs appear below. Thanks in advance for your advice!
*Hardware Overview:*
Machine Model: Power Mac G4
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.1)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed: 800 MHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 133 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.2.5f1
*System Software Overview:*
System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98)
Kernel Version: Darwin 7.9.0
Boot Volume: Computer

Your computer does not meet the system requirements for Leopard. An 867 MHz or faster processor is required (single CPU - dual doesn't count.)

Just Got a Power Mac G4 Dual 500, will it run leopard?

Hi,
I just got a "new" power mac G4 system. Its a G4 Dual Processor 500 Mhz with 1 gig of RAM. I also got the matching 17" LCD apple studio display. I have it up and running nice with the latest version of tiger. I was wondering if its possible to run leopard on my machine. I want to keep tiger as my main OS, but i'd like to play with leopard on a second HD. Is this possible?
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Want To Use D-Link AirPlus G Card DWL-G630 On 500 MHZ Pismo

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styler,
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How big of a hardrive can i use in my gigabit ethernet g4 dual 500.

Hi there.
I wanted to now how big of a hard drive can i use in my gigabit ethernet g4 powerpc with a dual 500 processor . at the present time i have one 80 and one 20 gig drive in there now.
So my answer is how big of a drive can i use before i have problems with seting it up. Like i want to use a 500 gig drive in my computer and my old 80 gig too. i want to buy a apple tv and store my dvds on the big 500 hardrive so i have alot of room for the vidio files, for apple t.v . If i can use one as big as one terabite you now the real big one that would be fine. The more room i have the better for me. I will be able to watch the movies i downloaded from the internet and i wont have to burn them at all.
This is of corse if apple tv will handle it.

Hi-
If you need that much storage, and you'll have to buy a controller anyhow, get a SATA controller card, and put one or two 500gb SATA drives in. The enterprise class of SATA drives are made especially for multi media storage, have excellent seek times and fast data transfer rates. A "bargain" on a package can be had at OWC:
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or
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The MaxLine Pro drives have great characteristics, and are reviewed favorably.
I have an OWC SATA card, and the card works perfectly, and is cheaper than other makers cards of equivalent specs.
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400 (or maybe 500) Mhz Titanium won't start.

I've adopted an old friend's Ti (of unknown configuration/OS) to see if I can get it to run. (He said he hasn't used it for over a year...but the last time he did use it, it started without a problem.)
I've read all (most) of the discussions about non-starts.
Questions:
1. Can I safely use my 65W 1 GHz Titanium power adapter to start the dead Ti?
2. Can I safely use my 1 GHz Titanium main battery in the dead Ti?
3. Does the 400/500 MHz Ti power adapter have a light on the plug that is supposed to go on (like the newer Ti's)?
At this juncture...I don't know whether the problem is A) the Power Adapter; B) the main battery, and/or; C. the PRAM battery.
(I'm trying the AC Power adapter for 48 hours with the main battery removed solution.)
Last, but unrelated, question: Will the 133 MHz DRAM work in the older (100 MHZ DRAM) Ti? I have 500 MBytes of newer Ti memory sitting here unused (I upgraded the 1GHz Ti to 1 GByte of DRAM).
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Hi, John. Yes, you can use the 1GHz Tbook's battery and AC adapter safely with the slower Tibook — they'll work fine. And yes, the old AC adapter is supposed to have a ringlight on its plug. If the adapter works and the light comes on when you connect that adapter to a different Powerbook, the DC-In board in the old PB is faulty and needs to be replaced. If the light doesn't come on with another Powerbook either, the adapter may be faulty. Use the 65W adapter to charge the old Tibook's batteries, then test the older adapter with the machine it belongs to. It's possible that the 45W adapter's light won't come on when it's being used with a Powerbook that expects a 65W adapter — I'm not sure about that.
Assuming that isn't the problem, your internal backup battery is undoubtedly dead after so long. That alone would prevent the Tibook from starting, and recharging it may solve your problem. It won't take 48 hours to do so without any main battery in place; 4-6 hours should do the trick.
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Trying to boot Al 1.5GHz PB with hard dirve from Ti 500 MHz PB.

For the curious on how this mess started, see explanation at end.
I am trying to boot an Aluminum 1.5 GHz Powerbook with the Hard Drive from a Titanium 500 MHz PowerBook. It has OS 10.4.9 on one of the partitions. When first turned on, I got the ? while it looked for a bootable drive/partition, then the grey screen with the Apple and the wheel just kept spinning. I also started with the option key down and it showed the OS 10.4.9 boot partition, which I choose, and got the same grey screen and the spinning wheel. So I think it is accessing/reading the drive. I note that I was able to boot my first generation G5 1.8 GHz PowerMac desktop with this drive attached as a firewire drive in an external case.
Looking at Mac help, it says when in the grey screen with spinning wheel it is checking out the drive and could take hours, but its only a 20GB partition, so could it take that long? (Since I only have one battery and no charger, I hate to have it just sit there over night)
There is a CD in the drive. Is there anyway I can remove it without booting, so I can replace the CD with a bootable one and boot from the CD? I guess I can also try putting the Al Powerbook in firewire mode and make sure it can access the hard drive completely and run some diagnosics.
Any other suggestions on getting this Al PowerBook to boot from this hard drive, other than letting it check out the drive for hours? (I'll need a power adaptor, which right now I don't have)
This hard drive has 4 partitions on it, OS-9 is in a separate partition. I am pretty sure this Al PowerBook will not boot OS-9, but will run classic. Since the HD has OS-9 drivers on it, is that the problem?
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My son was home from college. He had this Al PB charging on the breakfast nook table, and the dog got tangled in the cord and pulled it off. This broke the DC in jack, leaving part of it in the jack, so a new AC adaptor would not work. He had to leave, so I put his HD into my old 500 MHz Ti PB, it booted, and he could leave to go back to school with at least all his files accessible. I pulled the DC in/sound card out of his Al PB (a major undertaking) and got the rest of the plug out of the Jack. I would now like to get my hard drive to boot in his Al PB, as I have some classic programs I would like access, though not 100% required until he returns for Christmas and we can swap hard drives back. (I am pretty sure the Al PB will not boot in OS 9, but it will run classic)
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If I put in a spare HD (or external) can I use the full version of Tiger to install Classic, or does that have to come from the original install CD's that came with the PB?
It has to be the original CDs.
Any way to get the CD out if the machine is not booting?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106752
And if you want to force boot from a supported CD, try using the Startup Manager below:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178

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I have a iMac 500 MHz PowerPC G3 running Tiger. We had it running to the internet fine in one location, connected to a switch to DSL. We moved it and wipe the computer. Now I am trying set it up to connect to the internet using the Internal Ethernet, but it will not connect. It will connect to all of the computers on the network but not the Internet. The dot in front of the Ethernet is yellow and says "Built-in Ethernet is currently active. Built-in Ethernet has a self-assigned IP address and my not be able to connect to the Internet."
I can connect a Powerbook to the internet using the same line and works fine. Does any one have any suggestions?

Dear Tonele,
*Built-in Ethernet has a self-assigned IP address and may not be able to connect to the Internet."*
Who is your DSL provider? I have Verizon and couldn't connect this morning because of a bad IP address. Luckily a Mac Tech support guy (800-567-6789) talked me through reconnecting my currently wonky iMac.
He literally had me take the ethernet cord out of both the modem and my 'puter. Then he had me plug it into a different socket on my modem. I then used the control panel to tell the computer that it was going to connect by dialup. I saved that setting, then told it to connect by ethernet and saved that.
Only then did little blue let me get rid of the bad IP address.
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PB Ti 500 MHz ventilator don´t work

Hello
I have a PB Ti 500 MHz. First time the ventilator only works with fast speed. I´m not shure if there is a low speed, like by my PB Ti 550 Mhz.
Now the PB becomes very hot, but the ventilator don´t start working.
The ventilator has 3 wires, a black, a red and a yellow.
When I give 5 Volt to the red and the black wire the ventilator works.
Is there a software avaiable to test the ventilator?
Is there a software avaiable to control the temrature. (for Mac Os 10.2.8 or 10.3.9)
Greats by rettho

Hi rettho,
I have only a ventilator from a PB Ti 550 MHz. This ventilator has only a red and a yellow wire. I tried this ventilator, but it don´t work too.
Did someone know, which funktion the yellow wire has?
I don't know, but the 400/500MHz Tibooks are significantly different than all later models, so it's not surprising the 550 fan connections are not the same.
Before I work with mac OS 10.3.9 when the ventilator work. Now I have 10.2.8 installed to test and the ventilator don´t work. Is it possible, when I install Mac Os 10.3.9 that the ventilator work again?
Is it possible? Certainly. We've heard many reports here over the years from people saying that a software update/upgrade has affected the fan's behavior. The only way to know for sure will be to do the upgrade.

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