Dual ADC AGP card supplier?

Hi,
I'm trying to assist a user who is looking to replace a dead dual ADC graphics card (RADEON blah blah) in one of the first PowerMac G5s. Can someone recommend a suitable dual ADC card and UK supplier? [Cheers]
I seem to recall that you have to be careful when sourcing AGP cards in Macs i.e. you need to get the 'Mac Edition' in the case of ATI, but am not sure about Nvidia etc. Am I barking up the wrong tree thinking that the cards in question have extra pins (for power)?
TIA
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4)

No graphics board has more than one ADC port. There is an adapter to use an ADC display with a DVI port.
<http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=CC1BA768&nplm= M8661>
You will need a Mac G5 version of whatever board you get. The only new ADC G5 board being made is the
ATI Radeon® X800 XT MAC Edition RoHS 256MB AGP
<http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=3170810>
There are some other boards available from Apple as spare parts from
<http://www.welovemacs.com/g5video.html>
<http://www.welovemacs.com/agpg5vica.html>
Not all have ADC ports, but can be used with the DVI to ADC adapter.

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