Dual ATI Radeon HD 4870 and Nvidia Quadro fx 4000 in 2009 macpro--will this work?

I am thinking of this configuration for use with DaVinci Resolve 8. Does anyone know whether it will work.
Thanks,
Kevin

You will be short 1 power plug.
Not really a good idea to split any of them.
So ideally you would add an outside PSU.
If you are going to add outside power, you may as well step up to a GTX480 and GT120 for Resolve. (Ask Barefeats.com...he recently tested a GTX480 and found it could run circles arounbd a 4000)

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ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 and S20 ??

Hello,
Could somebody help me with this card ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 ?
I was wondering if we can put this card into S20 and if yes ..what exact we need to do this ? If not why ?
As far as i know there is different power socket on card ? So do we need some adapter or ??? to put this card
into S20?
Many thanks in advance
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prosek
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lead_org is incorrect. a converter cable on the S20 is not needed. it already has two PCI 6 and PCI 6+2 power sockets, allowing it to run two cards requiring 6+8 pin power sockets such as the 4870x2 natively.(edit: typo... meant to say 6+2, not 6+1)
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ATI Radeon HD 4870 - 1 GB GDDR5 - PCI-Express 2.0

I would like to up grade my graphic card to Radeon HD 4870 - 1 GB GDDR5 - PCI-Express 2.0. Will it work on Mac Pro early 2009? Given that apple seems to cost and arm and leg. compare to whats on the market.

the prosumer that will only be using 30" displays
Prosumer,... the mental health implications might apply.
And funny you should mention, a new, open-box Display will be arriving here tomorrow. Ordered it almost 2 weeks ago, better be "insanely great".
Not to be on the serious side though, there are it seems, many cards out and coming out. That Apple approved cards come out later doesn't phase me when I'm already getting remarkable performance from the one I have. And when the dust clears there should be some even better cards available, maybe even at a discount.

Kernel Panic Nvidia Quadro Pro 4000 CC14 MAC PRO 10.9.4 mavericks

I get kernels panics constantly when using CC14 lightroom and photoshop.. And this is causing me to loose thousands of dollars. I have searched for months have lost thousands of dollars in work, have trued to contact support only to be sent to community forums which i get no response...o
THEREFORE.....
Allow me to waste more time by contacting this unresponsive company.
i constantly get Kernel Panics when using CC14 associated with my NVIDIA Quadro 4000 2048 while using cc14 photoshop and lightroom since I updated to Maverick 10.9.4.
I have been searching for fixes for months, i have updated everything, every driver, and this has costed me THOUSANDS of dollars in pay i am unable to receive because my %^&* computer keeps crashing.
Now i am pissed! I have consulted APPLE and even after pushing me up to the top level. they still read off a piece of paper. ! i just wanted to go back to osx before mavericks which i was having NO ISSUES but no one seem to have a clue at apple how to even turn one on.
1. i am NOT doing a master restore and I NEVER had a problem before Mavericks and CC14!!!
2. Every driver is updated every firmware is updated
3. there is NOTHING RUNNING IN HTE BACKGROUND
4. i did an smc and reset pram
5. ran disk utility -- no problems
6. searched for answers for months.
7. and by the way..... photoshop cc14 does not save your work on a crash. it saves what you already saved
I AM TIRED OF WASTING MY TIME TRYING TO GET ANSWERS WHEN I ONLY GET IGNORED.
this is an issue with my nvidia quadro pro 4000 video card and -- adobe and - mavericks.
MY system is high end, mac pro 5,1 Processor 2 x 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon Late 2010 20 gig ram, quadro pro 4000 and an APPLE SSD TS512B
solid state
and i spent 10 gran on this system. I am a professional and this is my BUSINESS... my only income. not a kid playing games.
The video card was over a 1000.00! Nvidia? ADOBE?
This needs to be fixed. this is my livelihood

Thanks for responding....of course I mean adobe. A community forum is NOT a company.
I read the link to the thread and this person says an application CANNOT cause kernel panics -- well Apple begs to differ. http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14063
I have my own photography studio, ive spent over a half million dollars on my education (2 masters degrees) my equipment, and traveling the world to various workshops. I spend some evening researching new technology to stay on top of my craft but what I dont do and dont have time to do is follow forums regularly.
Therefore i dont know that this person has repeatedly said the same thing over and over in different threads about applications causing KP.
You suggested that I take my trouble shooting somewhere else...trust me this is not the first place ive tried to get answer.s I have been trying to resolve this issue since i updated to 10.9.4 and CC 14 and Nvidia Quadro pro 4000. It has been months of phone calls research, forums, talking to anyone i know that knows anything and I have lost thousands of dollars. My digital lab ran perfect before the updates.
so......
First...I DISAGREE with the guy in the thread because what he wrote is just his opinion. It doesnt matter wjho he works for, it a person converses a fact with NO REFERENCES then it looses credibility. I always include a reference when I make a statement to anyone
second: as i said in my discussion -- i have done everything and the only time i get kernel panics is when using photoshop - nothing else running in the background, and the issue is with the video card drivers , 10.9.4 and photoshop and lightroom CC14.
lastly; I know my video card is fine because Ive had photoshoots where i tethered (as I alwasy do) to Phocus software for my Hasselblad H4d and there is never a crash or kernel panic issue. ever.
I ONLY GET KERNEL PANICS WHEN I USE ADOBE PHOTOSHOP OR LIGHTROOM CC14 AND IT HAS ONLY HAPPENED SINCE I UPDATED TO 10.9.4 AND CC14
apple told me to do a restore -- they were just reading me what they were supposed to say.

ATI 4870 AND NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT together ?

hello. i have a mac pro 1.1 with the stock NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT video card. I will receive a new ATI Radeon HD 4870 card today and was wondering if it was possible to have both cards installed and if this wold provide a performance boost (ie will rendering videos utilize the power of both combined etc) . Also, i would like the option of having 3 displays . So 2 questions,
1. can i have both cards installed at once?
2. and if yes, will it provide benefits or problems/conflicts ?
thanks
Mac Pro 1,1 , 5GB Ram , Latest Snow Leopard , Mac 20ish" Display, and Sony Bravia 52" as display using dvi-hdmi cable .

I've run the 4870 together with the 7300gt; there were no problems whatsoever. You'll be able to run 4 monitors, other than that there are no other benefits. This is under OSX.
Note though, if you're running windows under bootcamp, with both cards installed you will likely run into driver conflicts. Best to keep to the same "clan" (ATI or Nvidia) when booting in windows.

Problem w Dual Monitors on ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB

Hi I'm having problems with Dual Monitors on ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB, Mac Pro 2009.
Setup: I'm running two 27" DELL U2713HM Displays at 2560x1440 one via direct DVI cable and the other one thru the Mini Display Port via Dual Link DVI adapter.
Now when I boot up the left screen displays the start-up apple as it should but then both screens go black and the right one (DVI connection) comes on while the left one stays black, goes into power safe mode. When I go into preferences > Displays I even get only one single display as if there were no multiple connected. It's however NOT a connection problem, since it works during the boot up sequence.
Any idea what might be wrong with my set-up? Do I need a new graphics card?

You do have the dual-link adopter connected to USB power right?
Next I would try using a displayport to mini displayport cable. You monitors have:
Connectors VGA, 4 x USB 3.0, DVI-D (HDCP), HDMI, DisplayPort 1.2,
That cable is about $10
http://partnerdirect.dell.com/sites/channel/Documents/Dell-UltraSharp-U2713HM-Mo nitor-Brochure.pdf

ATI Radeon HD 4870 card and HELP on installation

Hi
I really tried to reserach this without being spoon fed but I need some advice
I have a "early" MAC pro 2008 and I'd like to upgarde the graphics card to a
ATI Radeon HD 4870 (purchased from APPLE)
Is it an easy install as far as configuration or is it "plug and play" so to speak
Sorry, I am sort of new to this and have never installed a card. I have installed memory and an additional hard drive in my MAC and from what I have read uprgading a graphics card is not that difficult. I looked at a tutorial and that was helpful
Does the Apple recognize it or do you have to install drivers? When I look at the Apple store it mentions nothing about "drivers" nad the purchase of the product
Okay,t hanks for your time and patience as I don't have alot of experience with this.
David

Plug and play. Connect the auxillary power to card.
You need to be running 10.5.6 or later though.
Make sure you have a bootable backup, and if you use your DVD (many don't other than first time) you may want to look for a later DVD to come out at some point.
I think most of what you need want is here, it comes with power cable.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB999ZM/A
http://manuals.info.apple.com/enUS/Mac_Pro_Early2009_RV770_CableDIY.pdf

ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 and S10 and D10?

It will be better create new topic i think
We still have problems with this card. But now is this problem in S10 and D10 also.
The card installed make the Think Station in error , at boot two short bip and the video adapeter does't start.
After the BIOS upgrade and Installed the OS they get the folowing error on the Bios.
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4825/problemu.jpg
This is probably caused by not sufficient power provided to the graphic card. But when they provide all the Power to the card
they have the same problem.
We already have one suggestion
Power supply isn't delivering sufficient power to GPU (ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2).
Why?
Used power supply (Delta DPS-650PB A rev.02F) does not support 8 port power connector for GPU. Parallelisms 12V power
line will not work!
Afte exchanging power supply (Tagan TG1300-U33) system is running stable since few hours running Far Cry 2 (benchmark loop)
But if we exchange the power supply we lost warranty .
So we looking for another solution ?
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King Regards
prosek

Does S10 support this card with a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter like D10 ?
that depends on the total system load. if by adding the 4870 X2 the limit of the PSU is exceeded, then it won't work.
is there a 6 to 8 pin adapter installed in the S10? what are the hardware specs of your customer's S10?
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Ati radeon hd 4870 mac specifications

I haven't been able to find detailed specifications for the ati radeon hd 4870 mac edition.
The PC version specs show "accelerated transcoding and decoding for H.264 and Mpeg2".
Is this on the Mac version? Is it accessed/useful when compressing video to H.264 and Mpeg2?

We started to catch up, but missed the mark as far as driver support.
A GPU can also be a GPGPU, or CUDA, or PhysX card, or used in non-Macs for SLI and CrossFire. Windows 7 uses DirectX to off load work to the GPU.
A GPU is great for a lot of mathematical, encryption, parallel computing, even as a Fortran compiler.
I've never used a computer to play games, and when you see the extremes that some go to, $1000+ for 2-3 graphic cards teamed up, 180 fps... I imagine a wall of monitors at a concert or most any presentation today.
CS4 on Windows can use Quadro CX ($1600) not just for eye-candy, but off load and render. Don't send the image back and forth to the cpu.
Intel hopes to have Larabee out next year. Which goes in the other direction, use the cpu for handling tranditional gpu functions.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-larrabee-graphics,2253-11.html
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9111498/Intelkeeps_number_of_Larrabee_cores_under_wraps?intsrc=hmlist
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ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB

Does anyone know if 1 ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB uses how much power, because in the new Mac Pro (early 2009) it can't use more than 300W of graphics power consumption. So, i am thinking of getting 4 of those ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics cards (because i'm a real gamer) and stick them all into my new Mac Pro (early 2009)but if it does exceed 300W, then would anyone suggest a powerful gaming graphics card that is both compatible with Mac and Windows as i am planning to get windows vista on boot camp. The NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB is said to be a very crappy graphics card so i'm saying NO WAY!! to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB.

Get what you need for OS X, then get a PC card just for Windows. The GT120 might do normal things in OS X and grab whatever you want.... there is 75W and two aux power connectors of 75W each. GTX 275 Nvidia or something perhaps.
http://www.barefeats.com/nehal07.html

ATI Radeon HD 4870 not better than the Nvidea Geforce 120?

I bought av new ATI Radeon HD 4870 card to my MacPro. But are wery disappointed. My old NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 performes almost better than ATI. I ran Cinebench test and this is the results:
*NVIDIA GeForce*
Rendering (Single CPU): 3225 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18880 CB-CPU
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.85
Shading (OpenGL Standard): 6107 CB-GFX
*ATI Radeon HD 4870*
Rendering (Single CPU): 3218 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18852 CB-CPU
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.86
Shading (OpenGL Standard): 5846 CB-GFX
I also ran the Photoshop Actiontest from www.retouchartists.com on a large .tiff file, and my ATI Radeon used 1,10,2 and NVidea used 1,09,4. That is almost 1 second better for the old card.
Apple says that the ATI 4870 card performs 2x better than the Nvidea 120. That is not my experience!

Hello,
I currently have a 2008 3.0Ghz Harpertown mac pro and I am trying to figure out what to do here. I just purchased the 24 inch cinema display, but yet I have a nice 1GB 4870 ati radeon I got off ebay. Its more powerful than the Apple version, but lacks the mini-display port.
Currently, I have the ATI RADEON 2600 XT connected, though inactive, while my 4870 is active.
So, should I just get the Nvidia GT 120 and keep my 1GB 4870, or should I get rid of the 4870 I have and just buy Apple's? Either way, the GT 120 works in a 2008 mac pro despite what Apple says on their site that it only works in 2009 mac pros.

Incompatibility with ATI Radeon HD 4870

Hi, using Aperture 3 Trial (I'm waiting the deliver of full one from AppleStore) with few Canon RAW images I've experienced very often crash of the application and two kernel panic (sad), especially using brush tool like skin smoothing:
0x98c93fc8 : 0x29e44d (0x2113c164 0x1 0x10 0x0)
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.ATIRadeonX2000(6.0.6)@0x99753000->0x998adfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x8eea3000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.0)@0x98cfc000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.0)@0x98958000
After that I've tried to replace the ATI Radeon HD 4870 with my old Nvidia 8800 GT and the crashes are disappeared completely, also the kenel panic.
The 8800GT however is noticeable slower than ATi 4870 and Aperture3 is very slow with ATi, sadly slow with 8800 GT: using brush skin tool with zoom 1:1 (Z key) with color overlay and RAW images give refresh from a stoke to other until about 2 minutes! Unusable.
Also in that "wait state", activity window always reports: Generating Thumbnails (every says that)
Sorry to see that, because quality and features in this version are very exciting!
Maybe most other issues are mainly connected to graphics drivers.

Before report to Apple I would like to find most precisely the reason for the crashes :/
In those days I'm going to be crazy...
Now I've had aperture crash, some time, also in 1920x1200, so maybe resolution is a false positive :/
The last trials booting in 64 Bit kernel:
- ATi - Aperture crash during editing RAW file from canon 50D 7D and 5D mark II
- ATi - No crash editing jpegs
- ATi - kernel panic on ATi kernel module during editing RAW file from canon 50D 7D and 5D mark II
- ATi - Black screen and CPU/GPU hang editing jpegs
- NVidia 8800 - Aperture crash during editing RAW file from canon 50D 7D and 5D mark II (with 64 Bit kernel is a bit faster)
- NVidia 8800 - no kernel panic
- NVidia 8800 - no hang editing jpegs
I've tried editing the same kind of RAW file on the macbook pro 17" C2D and Aperture crashed...
So, maybe is a combination between RAW file (crash Aperture) and ATi under pressure (kernel panic & hang)
p.s under macbook pro (ATi Radeon X1600), during edit, often the screen become corrupted
On macpro, I've tried also 64 Bit kernel and 32 Bit Aperure, but RAW file editing hanged anyway.
Interesting the use of memory in 64 vs 32 bit, at 64 Bit (Aperture not kernel) editing a 5D mark II RAW file rise the memory up to 6 GB ram !!! in 32 Bit mode the same image and the same filtering reach only 3 GB of ram
weird

Reviews for ATI Radeon HD 4870 Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro?

There's no review at the Apple Store on this [ATI Radeon HD 4870 Graphics Upgrade Kit for Mac Pro (Early 2009 or Early 2008)|http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB999ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=NDE4NDMx OA]. Googled and found nothing related to the Mac kit. Mostly PC based.
Should I consider this card? I need a spare/replacement graphics card for my Mac Pro (early 2008). The NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card has failed me twice.

Just came out on barefeats:
http://www.barefeats.com/nehal14.html
Shows new drivers with 285, also compares 4870.
If you play a lot of games on the windows side, you might also want to consider the 4890. I has recently became flashable (if you're into that kinda thing). It has a lot more leeway to be overclocked. Close to (or if your lucky) hitting the 1 Ghz core clock speed, gives very close comp to the 285, and at fraction of the price. You can get an XFX 4890 on newegg for $195.

ATI Radeon HD 4870 - is it plug & play?

After few days searching why my Mac Pro (early 2008) was not passing the apple logo icon at start up (just freezing and showing every few seconds an orange color page) I concluded that my Nvidia 8800 was dead.
My best option here in Belgium is to go for the ATI Radeon HD 4870 but I was wondering how to install it.
Would the ATI Radeon HD 4870 install itself or do I need an other Graphic card on to be able to see all the process...
If it doesn't install itself I have to go to some Apple center to do the work (and the 453USD of the card... yes 315 EUROS!!!!!!!)..., I am really scared of the final bill!
Will my Mac Pro transform in a "very" expensive paper weight!

Thank you japamac for the links!
The hatter:
To be honest I don't know if I have 10.5.7! I usually always do all the update and believe that my Mac Pro is upgraded to 10.5.7. (Because I cannot pass the Apple logo, I cannot check which exact version I have now...)
Regarding my "dead" graphic card: Is it dead if it still gives me something on the screen even if it is in a "frozen" way!? Usually really dead means dead screen too!?
My problem is to try to find out by myself because I just don't have the budget for a costly repair (only the graphic card will cost me 400USD).
My problem started when I was playing Civilazation: the color switched and even the sound started to come out of the internal speaker of my Mac pro!?

ATI Radeon HD 4870 / 30''Display low res on Mini DisplayPort

hello. Since day one, my 30'' CinemaDisplay is working fine on my Mac Pro using a ATI Radeon HD 4870. Today, I wanted to connect a second display. This one's plug is a DVI one (as is that of the 30''), but one that contains the pieces C1 to 4 (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigitalVisualInterface). The DVI to MiniDisplay Port adapter I got from apple has a C5 slot, but the ones for C1 to 4 are missing. The DVI Port on the ATI Radeon HD 4870 on the other hand does have the slots C1 to 4. So I connected the second display to the DVI port on the card, and the 30'' via the DVI to Mini DisplayPort adapter. After startup though, the highest resolution available for the 30'' ACD was 1028 x 960.
I hope this is the right place for such a question. I didn't find a radeon forum that doesn't focus on games only. Maybe I should turn to the producer directly?
Otherwise, any idea on this is appreciated. Thanks.

Mini display port reminds me too much of ACD. Nice idea, but quick back-pedal. MDP makes sense for docking a MacBookPro to that one display, but other than that - the jury's still out. Noticed they haven't introduced a 30" MDP? Or ANY new displays for that matter... WHY IS APPLE GIVING THE DISPLAY MARKET TO DELL??? Love Apple but "been there done that" with their efforts at proprietary connections. Firewire is the only one that succeeded because it IS truly lightyears beyond USB (any version). And it didn't hurt that Sony agreed. Just installed a flashed PC 4870 from Applemecanix on eBay and reveling at the increased number of jitter-free movie windows I can have open compared to Mac Edition 3870 (great card BTW). The flashed PC version has 2 DVI ports (only 1 is dual link) and 1 GB of memory compared to half that on the "official" upgrade. And you can make an offer on eBay and get it MUCH cheaper than the "upgrade" version. My Applemecanix was an EFX card by the way. You can find instructions on the internet for flashing any number of PC 4870's but I calculated it was worth paying someone else $100 bucks to do it, with the right of return. If you are hard-pressed for cash and have a boot-camp windows installation you might be better off flashing it yourself. You'll have to buy a flashable PC version (retailers have gotten smart, they're charging more for these) and get the Mac power cords direct from ATI/AMD.
Apple has made a decision to sit on the sidelines in the display market. Accept it. On the whole the platform has never been better I LOVE SNOW LEOPARD!

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