Dual boot Tiger on SL vs Lion Mac Pro?

My 2004 Power Mac G5 (running Tiger) is getting old and cranky (frequent fan cycling, failed FW800 port, etc.). It still works but I know a replacement is in the near future. The problem is I have one critical program that runs properly only in Tiger. (Take my word for it.)
My questions:
1. If I were to buy a new Mac Pro today (with Snow Leopard), I understand that I could create a dual boot Mac Pro with Tiger on a partitioned or dedicated drive (internal or external). Assuming this is true, are there any issues of which I should be aware when creating a dual boot Tiger Mac on a Snow Leopard machine?
2. Is there a good reason to believe that a Lion-equipped Mac Pro (presumed to be shipping later this year) will (or will not) support dual booting with a Tiger drive or partition? I realize we can't know for sure until these machines come out, but perhaps someone has some insights here.
Ultimately my question is, "For the purposes of creating a dual boot Mac with Tiger, should I buy the current Mac Pro with Snow Leopard now (while it is still available) or will it be safe to wait until the new Mac Pros (with Lion) come out?"

you would need to find an earlier MacPro1,1 or 2,1 from 2006-7 to be able to boot Tiger. Minimum builds means new hardware will not boot from older versions of OS X.
Mac OS X build
You can find those Mac Pros for under $1K and they can run 10.4.7 thru 10.7.
Some even upgrade them with newest graphics card but then that limits it to 10.6.5+ and the old cards are dying and hard to find and don't really support 10.6.8 and beyond.
A new Mac before Lion ships makes sense unless you want to wait to see if there is a new Mac Pro in the pipeline but that would mean your software would need to run under 10.7 and could pose problems to even CS4/5 and other popular apps.
Too bad you can run 10.4 as if it was "Classic OS" the way OS 9 use to be, or in a standard VM and run other versions of OS X too.
Pick up a spare G5.
List WHAT it is that you need to run
Lion drops PowerPC support and code and even Rosetta will be gone.
OS X 10.7 Lion FAQ
OS X Lion new features

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