Dual boot with (or without) UEFI

Hello,
I want to add arch to a windows box, but I dont really know how to deal with the UEFI bootloaders.
Can I just install plain old grub and do it as i'm used to? I don't know if windows 7 actually uses a UEFI bootloader or not, but in the past I could just put grub on the MBR of my linux drive and add a entry to windows from there. If i choose a UEFI bootloader, will this still be possible?
-Dan

justdanyul wrote:do you know of any way to check if windows 7 is booting with uefi or not? (google have proved rather unhelpful on this matter so far)
May be off-topic wrt Linux, but to do this boot into Windows, open "cmd" (as Administrator), and then type "bcdedit". If the "path" variable under "Windows Boot Loader" shows "winload.exe", then its BIOS-MBR boot, if it is showing "winload.efi", then its UEFI-GPT boot.
C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit
Windows Boot Loader
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {dbd20116-b38a-11e1-826f-be71072f298b}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {dbd20114-b38a-11e1-826f-be71072f298b}
nx OptIn
numproc 2
usefirmwarepcisettings No
bootlog Yes
sos Yes
Last edited by the.ridikulus.rat (2012-10-22 09:47:25)

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mahkoe wrote:This laptop has a hybrid drive in it, specifically the WDC WD10S21X-24R1BT0-SSHD (I copied this out of the device manager), and I hear linux has problems with that?
Sounds unlikely; what problems? Where did you hear this?
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http://sprunge.us/TTca
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[SOLVED] Dual boot with ubuntu w/o installing GRUB? (YES)

Hi all -
This is my first shot at arch, tho I've installed a few other linux distros.
So far I really appreciate the excellent documentation, especially compared to other linuxes!
But I can't find a good answer to this question:
I already have ubuntu installed and would like to dual-boot with arch. (I also have Win7 but boot it from a separate disk selected via BIOS, and usually leave this disk disconnected anyway, so it's not an issue; grub doesn't know it exists).
Q: Before installing, can I make a new LOGICAL ext4 partition (say /dev/sda7),
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/dev/sda1 ext4 primary/boot (/ for ubuntu)
/dev/sda2 extended
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--/dev/sda5 NTFS (data - mp3s, etc)
unallocated 480GB --> Create new ext4 partition /dev/sda7, (logical or primary? Prefer logical)
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title Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, kernel 3.2.0-24-generic REGULAR
uuid UUIDforSDA1 (file has actual UUID number...)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-24-generic root=UUID=UUIDforSDA1 ro
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title Arch Linux
uuid UUIDforSDA7
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or
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=UUIDforSDA7 ro (??? - like the ubuntu entry)
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Edit: so I guess there's three questions:
1 - Can I install arch w/o installing grub & MBR messing-wth?
2 - What's the correct syntax for menu.lst to access and boot arch?
3 - Will this work?
Last edited by Flemur (2012-05-25 15:24:18)

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title Arch Linux
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Yes, just find a distro that supports macintel or intel mac. I think ubuntu has one, also keep in mind bootcamp has nothing to do with your macs firmware nore is it any type of bootloader. It partitions the HD, and allows you to create a CD with drivers on it. Might also consider parallels given the limited amount of space available on the macbooks. Having your linux install as a single document on the hd can be handy if you start to run out of room on the macbook.

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ivokosir wrote:It may be that you didn't install os-prober before running grub-mkconfig. This happened to me once, I hope I'm not too late to warn you.
I am sorry, yes you are too late. I have wiped windows 8 and performed clean install. No regrets. And as a matter of fact, I did grub-config and then installed os-prober. That could be the problem. Thanks. I will try this again another time.

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Most of it is a matter of opinion I think, but since I have a similar setup I'll throw in my two cents.
DrKillPatient wrote:I've got two entirely-blank 320GB hard drives on my computer, and I'd like to dual-boot Arch and Debian on it (and potentially others later). How should I set up GRUB (or GRUB2-- the wiki says that it's a better option when dual booting with other distros) for each OS in order to have both of them able to boot, as well as retaining the capability of adding other distros? (Assuming that Arch's GRUB(2), not Debian's, will be installed to the MBR.)
I use GRUB (legacy). Adding a distro in the grub menu is just a matter of finding the kernel and initram image of the distro and adding an entry. OS's generally either have a fixed location/name for the kernel and image or have a fixed link, so there are no problems on updates. I really don't like GRUB 2 and don't see the point of using it unless you are using something exotic that GRUB doesn't support.
DrKillPatient wrote:I
In addition, I'd like to keep my config files and data separate (with a shared data partition on HD 2).
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- What is the right size for the /home partition in this setup?
I just mount the data partition in /mnt/data and make symlinks from my home partition. In my case the data partition is ntfs, since I also use windows. My home partition contains 1.2 GB, of which 600 MB source code. So if you only keep configs in them it probably won't reach 1 GB.
DrKillPatient wrote:
I
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? ext4 Debian /home partition *see note above*
(free space)
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In my opinion a seperate boot partition is only useful for the OS of which the bootloader is installed to the MBR.

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i am very new to all this stuff. Can someone please guide me on how to go about installing Unix so that it also dual boots with windows ME.
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I know that on the iMac you can do a dual-boot with PC and Mac, but I am trying to find out if you can do it on the MacBook Pro. Does anyone know?

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if you mean dual-boot btw OSX and WinXP - you sure can. apple provides Bootcamp for precisely this reason and it works very well...
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
if you mean dual-boot btw OSX and some kind of Linux - i have less experience there, but i think its possible. perhaps the easiest way is to use Parallels Workstation (but that's not really dual booting in fact - it's virtualization)...
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