Dual Layer 1.67GHz

Hi,
I just finally made the plunge and bought a used dual layer 15" 1.67GHz PowerBook on Ebay.
It only has the original 512mb of ram so I will be shopping for ram immediately.
Does anyone know if the MacBook PC2 5300 667MHz ram will work in these units, and if so, is there any real advantage, like the 133MHz ram for Titaniums that works in Pismos?
+OWC has 1gb cards for this unit on sale for $21.99 each.+
+They also have the 667 MHZ PC2 5300 1gb cards for MacBook at the same price.+
Any tips or known issues on these 15" dual layer models that I should look for when I inspect it will sure be appreciated since I have never laid my hands on one before.
PB

What do you know, same here! I got a MINT condition one. I won't say how much I got it for and what the exact specs are so that people can't find out my identity, but I am loving it!!
The previous 15-inch model I got, as listed in my profile, is a model A1106 1.5GHz (which will now be sold on eBay shortly). I bought that because I didn't want to spend too much since I already have a 12-inch PowerBook.
However, in my quest to make the darn machine into a mint condition and souped-up "custom" machine? I ended up spending way more than it would have cost me to get a darn 1.67GHz top-of-the-line Double-Layer model, so a few weeks ago, started searching for one.
Should've aimed for this one in the first place. I love it. High resolution is fantastic!
On the memory, it came pre-installed with 2GB of RAM. However, the brand is something I've never heard before. MacRamDirect. I ran the Apple Hardware Test and all is well. I don't see any issues. Nor did the previous owner report anything, so it must be great.
I even Google searched it online, and they say their RAM is faster than everyone else's. They even charge more than the others do (like Other World Computing, or other places), and they have a lifetime guarantee on their RAM.
(Anyone ever hear of these guys, and are you using it in your machines?).
I forgot to say, the reason I mention it is the RAM they are selling, MacRamDirect, is rated at PC5300, if I'm correct.
I also read--and just replied to someone's question on another thread or forum (12-inch)--that PC5300 is backwards compatible. But? System Profiler reads one module as PC4200-S-444 and the other similar chip is read as PC-3200-S-288. So I wonder if that has anything to do with the lower slot RAM "failure"?
Though, the machine registers a total of 2GB of RAM, so I know it's "fine" at the moment. =)
I do know, after reading it also somewhere, that our Macs will only read the RAM at the speeds it's capable of. At 333MHz, even though the RAM itself may be rated faster (which would be optimized for MacBooks and MacBook Pros, which do access the RAM at higher speeds).
Message was edited by: Pismo 900
By the way, this new PowerBook of mine has Leopard v10.5.2 installed, if that means anything. (I also forgot to mention that before this new one, I had already bought--as I mentioned in a previous posting of mine--this exact same 1.67GHz model from another seller on eBay who misrepresented the condition and blamed me for the cosmetic damage when I returned it!).

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The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on Dec 23, 2009 by a brody.
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1. If your Mac shipped new with no Firewire, you may be able to install Tiger a special third party addon software known as XPostFacto.
2. If your Mac shipped new with less than 867 Mhz built-in processor (including dual processor 800 MHz or less), you may be able to install Leopard with a special third party addon software known as Leopard Assist.
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Leopard needs at least 512 MB of RAM.
If you have a lot of dashboard widgets, you may need to increase RAM to improve performance on either operating system. The RAM needs to follow Apple's specs to ensure smooth operation. Only get RAM with a lifetime warranty.
5. Officially you need for Tiger:
"At least 3 GB of free disk space; 4 GB if you install the XCode 2 Developer Tools" from: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1514
And officially for Leopard you need:
"9 GB of available disk space or more" from http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3759
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The Tiger installer is a san serif gray and white X with a spotlight on the center of the X on a black background.
The Leopard installer is a san serif black and gray X on a pink galaxy centered on a black background.
This is the 1st version of this tip. It was submitted on Dec 23, 2009 by a brody.
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