Dual layer DVD, help with break point

after reading alot of the previous posts on setting a dual layer break point, it seems the best way is to find the general area of where one thinks the break should be and then put in several markers in that area. My question is what type of markers to put in (ie. chapter, button highlights, dual layer break point)? Should i be able to put more than one Dual Layer break point? DVDSP is only allowing me to set ONE Layer Break Point out of the several points that i put in the area i think that the layer break should be, am i doing something wrong? Also, to avoid this whole trial and error process, can i simply do my "build" without any markers/break points and then burn the VIDEO_TS folder in Toast and let Toast find the break point? By the way, this disk will be replicated in case anyone forsees any problems with Eclipse, thanks for any help!

If after building only one marker is black (not gray) it is the only legit marker and why it is limited. The layer break will be on the DLT where it is set
I had one project that took quite awhile to find a place to put the marker to get a legal DL break point
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4032103&#4032103

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Hi all,
I'm having issues trying to burn dual layer dvd's with either Toast 10.0.8 or 11.0.1. I keep getting the Interface -50 error and sense key 0x02 error saying media is incompatible.
I have tried dvd's by DataWrite and Elite M and they both show error. It's strange though as I have been using previously purchased Elite M dual layer dvd's of the same spec as these newly purchased ones, and they worked fine!
My dvd drive is a standard OPTIARC AD-7170 that came with the Mac Pro as spec'd.
I am able to burn single layer fine, and dual layers are read. I'm just unable to write dual layer at the moment.
Any ideas? I'm stuck on what to do and what manufacturer's dual layer dvd's will work with this drive. It can just do +R DL.
Could it be I've been unlucky to have had 4 bad batches? I brought 2 x 2 (25 disc) tubs of DataWrite and same by 50 disc tubs Elite M.
Please help.
Thanks,
Ash
P.s. I have tried creating a new admin user account to see if I am able to burn under that. I get the same errors.
P.p.s. "Hopefully" this is just a media issue and I can find some that works again. If not and it is a drive fault what can I do? What writers spec'd same are available internal for my Mac Pro?
Message was edited by: AshleySmith06

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
If think you may be using the wrong speed-range media for that drive's capabilities. As I mentioned, there are two ranges, and 8X media cannot be written in a 2.4x (sometimes referred to as 4x) drive.
When you get an error message that actually tells you something concrete, you should listen to it:
CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT
... is pretty unambiguous. It's a problem with the Media.
Off-Brand media is the next weak link in the chain. One of their many problems is that they vary wildly from batch to batch. Verbatim media are thought to be the "gold standard". Get a small number of Verbatim Media and see if you can make ONE master on the best in the market. If you can, the problem is in the Media. If you can NOT, the problem is in the process.
Like I mentioned I have never had issue with Elite M before, and I always set Toast to burn "Best" under the recorder settings.
Here's what system profiler says for the disc and drive...
OPTIARC DVD RW AD-7170A:
Firmware Revision: 1.N8
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipping Drive)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media:
Type: DVD+R DL
ID: UMEDISC DL1
Blank: Yes
Erasable: No
Overwritable: Yes
Appendable: Yes
Write Speeds: 1x

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rross43
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The only time you see a distinction for double layer vs standard disc is in the burn to folder.
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