Dual layer DVD in iDVD questions

Hi,
For now, I have a PB 12" with a single layer DVD burner. I plan to buy soon an iMac 24" which have a dual layer DVD burner.
My questions have to do with dual layer thing.
Every year I film a theater play that last for about 2h30m. So, with my single layer DVD burner, I have to split the movie in half, and burn it on 2 DVDs.
Does a dual layer DVD would permit me to burn all the theater play on one DVD-DL so that I will be able to save the burning of the second DVD?
In my actual configuration, I cannot choose in the project information a dual layer DVD to burn an image to. Is there a way of doing so, so that I'll be able to burn my theater play on my iMac later?
Thanks for any help.

Hi Steve@Mac
Does a dual layer DVD would permit me to burn all the theater play on one DVD-DL so that I will be able to save the burning of the second DVD?
Read over the following link and then post back if you still can't select Dual layer for your project. And yes you will be able to put the entire play on one DL DVD-R.
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3974158#3974158
Also to create a disc image:
1. Choose File > Save As Disc Image.
2. Type a name for the disc image.
3. Choose where you want to store the disc image.
4. Click Save.
You can use Disk Utility in Mac OS X (or Roxio Toast) to burn the disc image to a DVD when you are ready. Use 4x or slower (slower is better).
Click Here
Here's some pricing info on DL Verbatim DVD-R (pretty reasonable I think).
Good luck!
SDMacuser

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