Dual Layer DVD with added ROM folder issue

When I burn dual layer discs with an added ROM folder I add the ROM folder along with the TS folders at the root level in Toast, and they burn just fine. For replicated discs I've always sent the files to a company in Boston to put on LTO for the replicator. Now a client's replicator wants the files as DDP 2.0, on discs, and I can create a standard DVD Video without issue in DVDSP, except, I'm having issues with adding ROM material. Obviously, I have to add the ROM folder within DVDSP and not Toast, since it gets built in to the DDP file. The trouble I'm having is when I add the ROM material within DVDSP, with ROM selected and Joliet enabled.
DVDSP creates the DDP files, and at the same time, it creates a TS file too, so I can burn that to see if the files are correct. But in the TS version there is no ROM folder. I only create one folder, named Extras. I've read here in this forum about the need to create a folder within a folder because of the way DVDSP reads and includes the folder. Is that still the case? Do I need to put my Extras folder inside another folder, select that folder, and DVDSP will put the Extras folder on the DVD? And finally, I don't have a lot of confidence now in what's actually on the DDP disc. Is there any way a mere mortal can confirm the contents of a DDP file?
Ed

I just wanted to make sure you are aware that there is no reliable way to acess ROM content outside of the user navigating to the root level of the disc. The technology was abandoned at least 6 years ago. Most people just have a menu that give the user direction on how to navigate to the root level of the DVD but in my experience this only applies to single layer discs.
I haven't ever been able to burn successful dual-layer discs in programs outside of DSP. DSP does something in the burn process that Toast and others is unable to do so that the second layer can be read.
I do not believe that the DDP can create/show ROM content for a dual layer disc.
The reason being that layer 0 always has to be bigger than layer 1(second layer) and authoring of the layers doesn't allow for a xtra folder of ROM content in the DDP format.
If these are being replicated I would check with the replicator and inquire if they have made a DL disc with ROM content. Possibly they could add the folder before the glass master is made but I believe it is unlikely.

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