Dual monitors on the ATI Radeon 9600 XT black screen on 2nd monitor

i have problem on second monitor , it always turn black during my work, and in a second it turn back to work well again, about 20-30 minutes a time .
can anyone here give me some help ? it really make me go crazy....
Thanks!
POWER MAC G5 DUAL 2.5 +ATI Radeon 9600 XT+2 SUMSUNG 205BW
The one connected to the ADC no problme.

LOGIC CAT-
My guess is either a bad cable or bad adapter on the second monitor. Try switching the monitors and see if the problem follows the monitor.
Luck-
-DaddyPaycheck

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