Dual Monitors w/ G5 - two users possible?

A question for those more knowledgeable than I about dual-monitor operation: Assuming I have a 2.0gHz G5 and two 23" DVI displays, can I run separate user accounts simultaneously on the same machine?
In other words, can the person across the desk from me use a separate monitor and keyboard connected to the same G5 and log in under another account while I'm working away under my account?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
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Hi
it's an interesting idea but I don't think it's possible. You can set up two user accounts and use fast user switching to switch between them, but I don't see how both accounts can be used simultaneously. For a start there's no way for the computer and OS to know which keyboard, mouse and monitor are being used by each user.

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This leaves me with 3 questions I cannot seem to figure out:
1) What did I do wrong with the non-working xorg config file, giving the error "no screens found"?
2) Another extra twist of difficulty comes from the rotated monitor on the right. How should I adopt for that, with resolutions and such?
3) Xinerama/Twinview - I am confused which one of these I should choose, what they offer over the other, or should I just not bother at all?
I would like, in a "perfectly good configuration", windows to be able to move from each monitor to the other, the monitors to be two distinct monitors (ie. they don't mirror each other), a maximized window to only fill up just the one monitor (and not both), and finally, fullscreen programs (like games and such) only fullscreen to the monitor they are on. Is such a configuration possible with all of these parameters?
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Last edited by Inxsible (2011-06-05 18:33:38)

BurntSushi wrote:
Your desired configuration is quite common, and indeed, is the default setup provided by Openbox---once the monitors are properly configured, of course :-)
Anywho, modifying xorg.conf files for something like this is a thing of the past, man. (Incidentally, you have made the lethal mistake of assuming an nvidia config will work with an ATI card. For example, "TwinView" is only available when you are using the nvidia proprietary driver.)
Judging by your use of "radeon" as your video driver, it looks like you're using xf86-video-ati. Therefore, congratulations, xrandr will rescue you :-) (This should also be the case if you you're using the Catalyst driver.)
thinkwiki should be enough to get your feet wet. Note: This guide is a bit dated, but 90% of it is still relevant and useful. For example, it claims that you need to modify your xorg.conf to add a Virtual screen size---this is only true if kernel modesetting is disabled. If it's enabled (and it should be if you're using xf86-video-ati), then you're good to go. If you're using Catalyst, you will have had to disable KMS. So you'd either have to add a Virtual screen to use xrandr, or configure your monitor setup with amdcccle.
Finally, you asked about rotation. I don't think this is anything that `man xrandr` can't answer, and you should be okay as far as support goes---rotation was added in RandR 1.2, which any civilized video driver should support. (Except nvidia blob.)
Anywho, feel free to come back with more questions if you have any!
(For terminology sake, this means you will be using neither Xinerama nor TwinView to configure your multi-monitors. You will be using RandR if you use xrandr. Interestingly, your screen setup will still be reported to Openbox via the Xinerama extension. You may be interested in a utility like `lxrandr` if the command line frightens you.)
Xrandr does the job elegantly, thanks! It's a simple matter of putting the commands I needed in openbox's autostart.sh. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
#xrandr --output DVI-0 1680x1050 --output VGA-0 1280x1024 --right-of DVI-0
# xrandr --output VGA-0 --rotate left
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The chipset on that motherboard is capable to handle dual monitors. And I found this onthe motherboard page: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02560084&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en...
Integrated graphics: concurrent use of the DVI and VGA ports is supported.
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