Dual or quad processor

We are putting our toe in the linux/dell/oracle water and are faced with our first question of either
Quad 2.0Ghz
or a
Dual 2.8Ghz
(everything else will be equal)
Not being from an oracle background I cant really give you a detailed description on what we are doing on the server other than "two people running data analysis sort of things on (very) big datasets". Yeah, it was a pretty feeble description.
I was pleased to read (in this forum) that oracle/linux uses the extra processor when running jobs (as opposed to our current software on windows boxs), but will the two faster processors work better than four slower ones?

You have a quad core.
Number of Cores: 4
Regards,
Captfred

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trying to
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So it sounds like if I get a machine that is running a dual
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>> My question is...Does anyone know if Design Studio
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>
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multi-tasking. Such as
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>
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>
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the other dual
> core while the rendering happens in the background on on
of the other dual
> core.
>
> -Darrel
>

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Hey guys, I have a question for those of you who have bought one of the new Quad Processor PowerPC G5's. I work at a Graphic house doing professional Advertising and Marketing. So...my questions is really should we wait till next year when Adobe starts supporting the Intel Based chips (and by that time the Intel Based PowerMac's will be on the market) or do we go with the Quads now. I'd like some feedback from people who have quads now and are using programs like Quark,Photoshop, Illustrator, Flash, and similiar programs.

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