Dual Processor and Premiere

Does Premiere make use of dual processors?

The HPXW6600 is using the Xeon 54xx series the last generation of processors and they are obsolete (unfortunately that processor is what i have in my self-built system}. If you are going to go with dual Xeon's you want to get the newer 55xx series which are the Nehalem family (like the i7 processors) which are much much faster for Premiere. They also do not have practical graphics cards available. Etc. Etc.
I guess I am going to have to go into business building Premiere engines we seem to strike out with too many vendors.

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Should I upgrade the RAM, the Processor, and add an ATA/133 card?!

Hello!
I have a few more questions...
I only have 2 internal drives...
(one 300GB which is the main one that runs the applications and one 60Gb used as extra storage mainly for my video projects)
Do I need an ATA/133 PCI controller card for them?
will it really be worth it?
(meaning will it actually make a difference in speed or not?)
or do you only need one of those cards if you have 3 or 4 drives?
also,
would adding more RAM (up to the 2.0 GB limit)
(my comp is currently at 1.25 GB)
make a huge difference?
and the processor...
if i upgrade it to the 1.8 GHz
(it's currently at 867 MHz)
will it be a major improvement?
i guess I'm asking if i would benefit in upgrading
everything:
the RAM,
the processor,
and adding an ATA/133 PCI controller card
or would just upgrading/adding one or two of these be suffice?
I'm seriously looking into upgrading my comp but I want to know
what benefits me and what won't really make a difference
-Cristina-
p.s.
I know I posted this somewhere earlier,
but I'm just so anxious :/
I've been looking at so much information that my head feels like it's going to explode!

Hi-
You don't need a controller card.
If you keep your main drive(s) on the ATA/100 bus (rear carrier), and add (if you like) up to two drives to the ATA/66 (forward carrier) bus, for storage, archives, etc., you will have fine performance from all drives.
If you are going to add a drive, I would add a larger drive to the ATA/100 bus, and move the smaller (60gb) to the ATA/66 position, relegated to storage. Your graphics work (is it?) will then run well on the two drives on the ATA/100 bus.
In a G4, running with maximum RAM (2gb) is always a good performance move, and helps reduce the "spinning beachball", especially with large graphics files. As for "huge difference", not as such, but, RAM is one of the cheapest (especially now) performance buys that can be had, and more RAM is always better than less.
Upgrading to dual 1.8ghz processors would be a "Wow!" type of upgrade, compared to the current dual 867mhz processors. Be advised, that processor upgrades require that you be able to boot to OS 9 prior to installing the processor upgrade. This is to apply necessary "patches" to allow the system to use the new processors. If you don't still have a boot-able OS 9 installed on your machine, you will need to have that ability prior to a processor upgrade.
Another processor upgrade option, would be to change your processors to dual 1.25 or 1.42mhz processors from another MDD. The difference from a 11.25 dual processor, and the dual 1.8, is really between 10-15% increase in performance, with the 1.25mhz providing about 20-25% increase over the dual 867mhz processors. The main problem with this approach, is that there are some modifications that must be made, which aren't the average "do it yourself" type of work.
In the end, though, you may want to take the upgrade money, $600+, sell the MDD, $300+, and put the money on a new Mac. Don't get me wrong, I like upgrades, but it is as much to tinker, as it is to boost performance. And, at the end of the day, I don't need a new Mac. If you don't, either, you will be happy with the upgrades.

Does Photoshop Elements 6 (or 7) use both processors dual processor on a Power Mac G4?

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It's not clear what you mean to do.. If you mean you think you can put an intel processor into a G4, yes, you are totally wasting your money. If you mean you want to try to give the G4 an extra G4 processor, you are still wasting your money where PSE is concerned.
PSE 6 (there is no PSE 7 for mac) will not run well on a G4. It's not really happy on a G5 even. I'd suggest saving your money towards a more up to date machine, or just getting a mac mini, which, while pretty low end, will still have far better performance than you can coax from the G4.

Are there large performance gains in labview with a dual processor?

I have an application that is very cpu intensive using 4 ni6052e's with lots of data aquisition going on. Does anyone have experience with dual processors and labview? What processors? What OS? What are the complications to switching?

You might be interested in the following documents:
Using LabVIEW to Create Multithreaded Applications for Maximum Performance and Reliability
Optimizing Test with Multiprocessor Machines
LabVIEW and Hyperthreading
You'll want to look at multithreading along with multiprocessing. On multiple processor systems, multithreading is almost always beneficial, because it allows for each multiple i
ntensive threads to run simultaneously. However, it is the operating system's responsibility to schedule threads on the processors, and may not always schedule the threads of your application on separate processors.
On either single or multiple processor systems, there is often a benefit if you are sharing time between CPU-intensive threads and I/O-intensive threads. While one thread is reading or writing to the network (or GPIB, or hard drive, or DAQ device) other CPU-intensive threads can keep running. In a single-threaded system, the CPU would sit idle at times, waiting for the I/O to complete.
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Can FW800 133 MHz board from single 1 GHz machine take a dual processor?

I've read in more than one place that the logic board from the 1 GHz FW800 machine can't be used with ANY dual processor. Can anybody tell me with a reasonable degree of certainty whether this is true or not?
Please don't bother answering based on general principles. I already believe -- tell me if I'm wrong -- that every other MDD FW400 or FW800 board CAN take a dual processor and, except for this question, EVERY processor will work EITHER with EVERY 133 MHz board OR with EVERY 167 MHz board.

From my experience the processor card should be compatible, but don't hang me if I'm wrong.
This page showes how to set different multipliers = bus ratios.
So, according to the default multipliers for the MDDs, you get:
6.5x 133 MHz bus = 864.5 MHz CPU (867 MHz)
6.0x 166 MHz bus = 996 MHz CPU (1.0 GHz)
7.5x 166 MHz bus = 1,245 MHz CPU (1.25 GHz)
Thus, if you put a Dual 1.0 GHz onto a 133 MHz board, you'd get not 1.0 GHz but 800 MHz instead (798 MHz to be exact). The same goes for the 1.25 GHz where you'd get 1.0 GHz (997.5 MHz), and for the 1.42 GHz where it'd be 1,1 GHz (1130 MHz, multiplier 8.5x).
6.0x 133 MHz bus = 798.0 MHz CPU (1.0 GHz → 800 MHz)
7.5x 133 MHz bus = 997.5 MHz CPU (1.25 GHz → 1.0 GHz)
8.5x 133 MHz bus = 1,130 MHz CPU (1.42 GHz → 1.1 GHz)
So, if you alter the bus speed of the board (see here, link is from the xlr8yourmac page linked above) you will be able to use the Dual processors for the 166 MHz bus on your 133 MHz board, then overclocked to 166 MHz, at their designed speeds. If you don't what to change the boards system bus speed the processors will just be underclocked, thus run slower – with all the advantages like less power consumption and less heat emission together with a prolonged lifetime.
To fit the 133 MHz system bus you would have to change the multipliers on the processor daughter card to run at the processors native speeds.
Just one example:
1,000 MHz / 133 MHz = 7.5x
So, if you'd want to run a Dual 1.0 GHz processor on a 133 MHz system board you'd have to alter the multiplier from 6.0x (for the original 166 MHz system bus) to 7.5x (for your 133 MHz system bus) – the resistors to change the multiplier reside on the processor daughter board.
That said, keep in mind that this procedure is *NOT tested or confimed*, but it seems logical, doesn't it?
I had a OWC Mercury Extreme 1.4 GHz processor upgrade placed in a Gigabit Ethernet replaced into a Quicksilver (2001 version). As you can see here, it had set the multiplier to 14x to have it run at 1.4 GHz on the Gigabith Ethernet (100 MHz system bus) and I had to set the jumpers to a multiplier of 10.5x for the Quicksilver (133 MHz system bus).
Thus, if I had put the OWC Mercury Extreme running at 1.4 GHz in the 133 MHz bus Quicksilver unmodified back into the 100 MHz bus Gigabit Ethernet, it would run at 1050 MHz (roughly 1.0 GHz).
That's it. There wouldn't be more to it than that, but the latter source (for changing the motherboards system bus speed) states that Apple put in some protection on the processor daughter card to prevent increase in system bus speed if no dual processor is present. Since this doesn't apply to you as you stick to your 133 MHz system bus it shouldn't bother you.
*But don't blame me* if it should turn out to be completely wrong!
Cheers,
Andreas.

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I buy a FW800 1.42Ghz Dual Processor

If you have a fully working FW800 1.42Ghz Dual Processor and want to sell, send me a message maybe we can make a deal.

My friend,
Its the luck of the draw.. You have to sometimes check ebay to see if those are available. Besides, if you have a 1.25DP already, you are just wasting your money since the percentage in speed jump is only 10-13% which is MINISCULE and not really worth it.
Personally, max out the ram and get sata hard drives..
Oh, and the dual 1.25 is plenty FAST for me, given I was coming from a Digital Audio 733.

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Hi, I think you have to adjust your firmware, I just read this and it may help you.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/mac6800ultrareview/index.html
Read through it, I didnt understand most of it but there are some usefull looking forum links that may help you.
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Mark,
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John with a G4 - no problem at all hehe! Dont get me wrong I loved my G4 and it served me well for just about 10 years before it 'died' on me.. But after getting the late-2005 dual core G5 man oh man I wish I wouldve done it waaaaaaaaaay sooner!

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astrojimbo wrote:
Is it likely that Lion will work for me or am I asking to much from the Mac?
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If it helps, this page has benchmarks for G4 upgrades.
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