Dual Quad With CS3

I'm building a duel quad core for photoshop and premire editing. My question is about a scratch disk. Will I see better speed if I get a 74 gig Rapton WD for the scratch drive? I have a Sata 160 as the OS and program drive and three 320 gig Sata WDs as storage drives. I was thinking af the Raptor as a scratch. And is anyone out there using Photoshop with a quad or dual quads? Thanks

If you have a Raptor, you really don't need to worry about keeping the Photoshop scratch files and system paging files on different volumes -- especially if you have enough RAM that paging files aren't going to be used much. If you have several GB of RAM, there will be only rare swapping to disk. The recommendation (not requirement) that the scratch and paging files be on different volumes is based on the assumption that the paging file will often be used and will be a significant slowing factor, which is not necessarily a valid assumption when one has sufficient RAM and a fast hard drive.
I have 4 GB of RAM in Windows XP -- used to use the /3GB switch but it wasn't compatible with some other software, so I only have 2 GB available in apps. I used to have the Windows pagefile and the Photoshop scratch on C:, my 74 GB Raptor. Most apps are on D: and the photos are on E: (both are 7200 rpm Caviar drives). I never ran into any problems due to the pagefile and scratch file attempting to write simultaneously, because the pagefile rarely had to write. I've recently moved the scratch file to D: (with E: as overflow) simply because the C: drive lacked sufficient space. No noticeable change has resulted.

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or
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Might it be useless to buy a quad core instead of a dual core?
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Alessandro

Thank you very much!
I am puzzled now, because I just got a response from Adobe Italy and they told me that many of their clients are reporting various issues using quad core with CS3. So they advised me to go for dual core. Actually, if you think about it, the official system requirements for Adobe Premiere CS3 do not mention quad core.
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I believe you can only deactivate/activate 20 times, precisely to keep
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you do it.
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VISTA Support for Multiple Dual Quad Core Processors

Sorry if I missed this in my search.
Does Windows Vista Home Basic support dual quad core processors?
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Required hard (destructive) reboot, until I figured out workaround
described below. Apple really needs to fix this as a high priority.
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/var/log/system.log (many messages like this):
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Plea from customer:
Apple: PLEASE post an update to fix this very soon.
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Apple comes up with a real fix, for example, caches to clear,
how to identify a faulty file, or quarantine a faulty faunt,
or any other diagnostics, please feel free to reply.
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and I can't afford down time, because I'm mid-project right now,
and it will be a HUGE setback to have to bring my machine into the
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Sorry for my ignorance, but I don't want to take a chance of creating issues with my laptop.
I have been doing on location editing with my Macbook Pro 2.16 (with the Intel Chip), that is running on Tiger 10.4, Final Cut Studio 1.
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<Edited by Moderator>

To (slightly) expand on what David told you in the other thread ...
1. The OSX install disks shipped as OEM with computers are not compatible with another model.
2. One OSX license, one computer.
3. As David already noted, a laptop and a desktop can share a FCP license as long as you do not use them simultaneously.
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x

Will the single or dual quad be right?

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The cpu is smarter than that, and smarter than we are. A lot of things are going on below the surface, and in less than a nono-second is even a stretch in time, and changes. A core doesn't shutdown.
I suggest you actually dig into the technical papers and articles on Nehalem if you want to understand it more thoroughly. I've read that ARS article three times and still get something new with each read. And there are other articles. I feel like 2008 was just waiting and researching the sucessor to Penryn class (Harpertown).
The specials are just that, and they get 'hand tuned' and physically booted before they go out the door and usually have above the base spec listed.
I am not in favor of bleeding edge. Not until there has been one firmware update and one OS patch and time for 3-4 months minimum to flush out problems that surface. Some are still hoping the next OS update fixes issues with Nvidia 8800GT a year after it came out (and yes, drivers take a year of tweaking, Vista has had two years and apps/games and drivers are an ongoing experiment).

Problems with CS3 and Leopard

Having a bit of a nightmare with Indesign and Photoshop CS3 since upgrading to Leopard. Running a Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 With 2GB DDR SDRAM. Anyone else having problems?

Below is the Adobe Marketing Line (copied verbatim). It's what I was told by Adobe Sales and what I read at Adobe.com, FAQ, before buying CS3 in October 07. Imagine my surprise when I discovered all of the issues with CS3 and Leopard, even after the update to Acrobat 8.1.2 Professional which promised full compatibility (see chart at bottom).
Apple and Adobe... ARGH.
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ADOBE CREATIVE SUTIE 3 Frequently Asked Questions
Support for Mac OS X Leopard
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Expected to be available
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Hi all - be greatful if someone could settle something for me.
We want to buy a Mac Pro which is good enough to do Cinema 4D/Photoshop work on (and at a good speed).
I have been advised by an apple store to buy a Mac Pro Quad 2.93 over a Dual Quad 2.26 - does this sound right. In my mind surely 8 cores running at 2.26 will be able to crunch numbers faster than 4 cores at 2.93?? Obviously i'm talking only in the case here of such applications which can take advantage of multi-processors simultaneously such as photoshop and cinema 4D - i understand that an app that can't do this will use only one processor core and so the 2.93 machine will run these apps faster than the 2.26 version. It's more the multi-processor capable apps i'm concentrating on.
Thanks

Bro I will tell you to get the 2.26*2 8 core. I just returned the 2.93 Quad core. I personally felt that the 8 core was a better machine all around because of the additional cores. Having those additional cores will make you forget about the 2.26 clock speeds. I use it for FC and LGP and I noticed the difference on both machines. I ran the 64bit geekbench scores on both machines and on the 2.93 quad core with 6GB or ram the score came in at 10355 but when I ran the 2*2.26 8 core I got a 13698 with 8GB of ram installed. Remember you can install up to 32GB of ram on the 8 core but only 16GB on the quad core per Apple website and Apple retail store geniuses. Plus if you are trying to future proof yourself the 8 core would be better but either system you can not go wrong!

XServe dual quad core max power consumption

What can I expect to be the max power consumption of a dual quad-core XServe?
I have four new XServes that I administer in four separate locations and I need to know what Apple recommends for an Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) per server.
Right now, I have a 500VA one that I've had on hand at least one site. However, I've noticed that this one, eventhough the UPS has a new battery in it, does not support an XServe -- ie, when I test it, the XServe shuts down abruptly. My guess is that 500VA is inadequate.

What Apple might recommend and what might work in your environment, I do not know.
The APC SmartUPS 1500 works reasonably well for an Xserve and its usual accretion of giblets and accouterments, and Mac OS X Server automatically recognizes this device via its USB connection.
And one thing I've discovered that's not widely listed. Get yourself some short power cords. A handful of appropriately-rated power extension cords (of about one foot in length) makes most UPS products far easier to deal with. These cords are a few dollars each from various vendors, and very useful.

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