Duplicate Fonts

Recently, i validate my fonts using "font book" and there seems to be an error with the font "Helvetica." By validating "font book" i found out that there were 2 files of the font "Helvetica Light" (Yellow Triangle). I tried to select the font "Helvetica Light" and i tried resolving the duplicate, but it doesnt seem to work. I click "resolved duplicate" many times but nothing seems to fix it.

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If that doesn't help, go to ~/Library/Preferences.
Move the com.apple.FontBook.plist file from the Preferences folder to the Trash.
Restart your Mac.
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I am experiencing problems with Sharpener Pro 3 as an Aperture 3 plug-in. These are: the Pre sharpener continually asks one to buy or activate and the Output Sharpener causes Aperture to hang. Following discussions with Nik Software I have removed all duplicate fonts and tried using a new user account. Neither of the courses of action worked. Have other users experienced these difficulties? Can you suggest an alternative remedy?

I am experiencing problems with Sharpener Pro 3 as an Aperture 3 plug-in. These are: the Pre sharpener continually asks one to buy or activate and the Output Sharpener causes Aperture to hang. Following discussions with Nik Software I have removed all duplicate fonts and tried using a new user account. Neither of the courses of action worked. Have other users experienced these difficulties? Can you suggest an alternative remedy?

Duplicate font in PDF causes prepress RIP failure

I've scanned various forums trying to get a handle on this problem but nothing seems to get at this issue.
A book that we've built with InDesign generates pdfs that show a duplicate MyriadPro-Light font embedded in the document. The second iteration of the font has a different icon and is listed with as Type 1(CID) with Encoding: Identity-H. The Acrobat Pro PDF/X-1a preflight doesn't flag any issues with the file, but when I sent the file to prepress their RIP flagged the MyriadPro-Light font as having inadequate permissions. They were unable to substitute a font or bypass the error. What's more, they were unable to print from the packaged source files I provided - getting the same error. They had to brute-force open individual pdf pages in Illustrator, convert to outlines, generate an eps and place 170 eps pages in Quark to get a file that would RIP.
Here's an image link that shows the two MyriadPro-Light font entries with the balky one highlighted.
http://home.comcast.net/~bjnicholls/fileaccess/EmbeddedFontsAcrobatPro.jpg
I've looked for duplicate MyriadPro installations in my XP SP2 system fonts folder and in the common files/adobe/fonts folder. There were duplicates for several MyriadPro fonts, but only the Light variant is acting up. From what I've gleaned, the Indentity-H suggests the font is a screen font or something along those lines.
I moved all the OTF fonts from the common files Adobe fonts folder trying to troubleshoot the problem. I bypassed my FontAgent Pro utility and ensured the MyriadPro OTF fonts were installed in the system fonts folder with no fonts with similar names.
I theorized that pdf and eps graphics placed in the book documents may have a font variant embedded in them, so I went through all the placed vector format files and converted type to outlines. A subsequent pdf export shows the same duplicate font problem.
I'd appreciate help with a strategy to track down the offending font. There are 11 documents assembled into one InDesign book, I'm generating a book pdf from the book dialog window. I've opened each document looking for font error messages and found none. In each document, Myriad Pro Light shows normally in the font pulldown lists and behaves normally.
Some of the document files were worked on via a Mac. As far as I know the same Adobe Opentype fonts were used by that designer. The documents started out in InDesign CS2, but as my collaborator acquired CS3 we've moved the document into the new version.
In addition to diagnostic strategy advice, I'd appreciate information or links to explain Adobe's application font strategy (dedicated font folders in both the common program files folder and so-called "private" font folders associated in the application folder tree). I've seen many threads where this fragmentation of installed fonts causes confusion and I'd like to understand what Adobe's intent is with this separate font management system.
I suppose I should ask this in the Acrobat forum, but I don't understand why this font issue isn't flagged in Acrobat preflight checking.
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Therer is absolutely nothing wrong with the scenario of a PDF file having one font subset as regular Type 1 and another as a double byte CID encoded. That is all perfectly kosher per the PDF specification. As such, no PDF/X preflight or any other rational preflight profile will flag this as an error since it is not an error!
I suspect that the "problem" is not that there are two subsets of a particular font, one as a regular Type 1 font and the other as a CID-encoded font, but rather, that there is a problem with the RIP itself not being able to properly deal with CID-encoded fonts. The fact is that CID-encoding has been part of the PostScript language specification for well over 10 years (standard in PostScript 3 and most PostScript Level 2 printers can handle these fonts - even my 12 year old LaserJet 5M can handle them!) and the general PDF specification since Acrobat 4 / PDF 1.3 in 1999 (although Acrobat 3 did support them for CJK Asian fonts).
Note that the scenario you offer occurs not only with InDesign, but with Illustrator, Photoshop, and Acrobat Distiller. All of them can yield PDF files that would be a problem for your printer's RIP.
Looks like your printer needs to update their software to some reasonable level.
- Dov

Problems with duplicate fonts

The other day I was looking into "Font Book.app" and notice I had a few duplicates so I removed them. Now I have a few applications that don't work, like Zino (Magazine reader) it unexpectedly quits. So I contact Zino and they ask me to send them the first part of the report that generates an application when it unexpectedly quits. And they notice I had no Arial font activated. The problem is that I do have the Arial font in my "Font Book" application but I guess is the duplicate Arial font that the application is looking for. My question is how can I get this duplicate fonts back?
Blue skies and happy new year!
Jerry

how did you deactivate those fonts? did you use Font Book or did you manually delete the fonts? if the former, then reboot once in safe mode. reboot and hold shift at the chime. once you boot in safe mode reboot again and log in normally. this will clear your fonts cache and all you inactive fonts will be reactivated.

Can I change option for Consolidating Duplicate Fonts?

I work for a textbook publisher. Our materials are constantly be proofed, updated, and repurposed. Several of the titles are over 1,000 pages. We are experiencing very significant hangups when it comes to "Consolidating Duplicate Fonts" when we replace the initial page of these documents, and then again when we need to do a "Save As." Sometimes this process can take upwards of 45 minutes. This has created a production nightmare without any resolution I can find to the problem. Is there anything we can do to speed up or bypass this process without bloating the file sizes or degrading press-ready compatibility?

Thank you for your input, Luke. And, yes, I am talking about PDFs.
In normal situations, your suggestion may be a viable option. However, our printer and the vendor we use to generate/post our digital editions require completely embedded font sets (no subsets). But, I will give it a try, just to test the theory.
Our Student Edition textbooks actually run through this process at a resonable time; taking about 2–3 minutes.
Primarily, the issue happens when updating pages within our Teacher's Edition. The teacher's book pages contain an insert of the student's textbook pages. Those imported graphics for the insets are also PDFs, made from a cropped press-optimized version of the student's pages. It's my thought that is what is causing the trouble. Otherwise, this text in the teacher's book is quite simple. I'm fairly sure the app has to basically read/consolidate each of those particular pages twice. But it still shouldn't take as long as it does.
Typically, we use only four font families: Avant Garde, New Century Schoolbook, Lubalin Graph, and Jacoby. We do use a few others randomly for illustrative purposes at times, but all-in-all, we keep fairly simple in regards to font usage. I really don't believe the issue has anything to do with the quantity of fonts being used.

FAQ: How do I clear out my font cache to fix font style and duplicate font style issues?

We have a Script availabe for CS6 beta users who are experiencing particular font related issues.
This script will help by clearing the font cache and will test for corrupted fonts.
This will solve some of the type issues with duplicate font names and some of the other font errors.
This script is to help to find corrupted fonts. The script itself doesn’t solve the problem.
This script doesn’t solve duplicate font name, but clears out your font cach . It it will solve some duplicate font style name issues such as the one in the link below.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4306828#4306828
There is a pdf file explaining how to use the script and what it will do.
See attached files.

Monica, I know the Normal Character Style in Illustrator must be defined. But my question is about the Normal Paragraph Style, not the Normal Character Style. As Larry just said, in most of my documents, and in my New Document Profiles, these fields in the Normal Paragraph Style are blank (undefined), so I know this is possible. In a few older documents I'm converting, the Normal Paragraph Style has a defunct font, and even though my Normal Character Style is correctly defined with the current font, it's creating some weird behavior.
Larry, it doesn't appear to be the document itself, it just appears to be not knowing what the right keystroke combo is to clear it. Just make a new file from a Document Profile where the Normal Paragraph Style does not define one of those font fields, define a font and/or font size, save, then reopen the paragraph style settings and try to clear any field that has been set. I can't clear it, I can only change the font.

File is getting hung up in Consolidating Duplicate Fonts function

I have a large file that has around 50 files incorporated into it for a total of approximately 9000 pages. One "section" of the file is where the majority of files were incorporated. No one in my organization was the author of those files. The problem I have with the completed file, after a lot of pain, is that any time I go into the file to make modifications (i.e., replace pages or add pages) the action causes the file to do a function called Consolidating Duplicate Fonts which is a normal function. What is not normal is that this function gets hung up and takes almost an hour to process. The problem manifests again when I go to save the file (I always use Save As) when saving my files for optimum file size management.
When I work with this document without that section in it the file is fine.
I have tried printing to the problem files to Adobe PDF as another file and while that reduces the file size it doesn't cure the problem. I have the suspicion that there is something in the embedding of fonts that is going on. Is there any way to fix the problem of the file taking so long to consolidate the duplicate fonts?

I can only imagine that these files are huge. A portfolio may be more appropriate.

Consolidating duplicate fonts

First off, I am working in Adobe X Pro. Secondly, I have 22 separate documents that I need to combine, for a total of about 110 Mb. When I try to combine all at once, it displays the message "consolidating duplicate fonts" and basically shuts my computer down. If I drag each file in seperately, it takes approximately 14 hours to drag 21 files in one at a time to the original file. What is the answer here? I think it is beyond nuts that it takes 14 hours to combine a 22 document PDF! Is there some sort of font management system that I need or??? Any tips/tricks would be desparately appreciated!!! Shannon

I can only imagine that these files are huge. A portfolio may be more appropriate.

About resolving duplicate fonts

Hi to all !!
Got a question about resolving duplicate fonts.
Safari (1.3.1) quits on occasion, especially after long internet browsing.
So following Bee's estimed adviced, I trashed the icons folder and checked for duplicate fonts. Of course there were some so I applied "resolving duplicates" and it worked to clean up certain fonts but on other I got a message asking me: Are you sure you want to disable the selected fonts? If you do, these fonts will not appear in the collection "All Fonts" in the Font panel.
I've tried selecting the whole font or only the duplicate within but for these 5 fonts I get the same message.
Is it OK to click "OK" ???
Thanks again for any help, it's greatly appreciated!!!
Eric

Amarq010 --
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We're other Mac users here, asking questions and sharing solutions.
You have a distinct font conflict. It's probably a free font that you downloaded.
You're going to have to click on each font to see the sample text. It's going to
look like the mystery one on all your menus. It's a small-caps font. Once you find
out which one it is, trash it.

Consolitation duplicate Fonts ... takes forever

Hello,
some of my pds's have 6000 to 10000 scanned pages, with thousands of bookmarks etc., filesize >1gb.
If i insert new scanned pages (from another pdf) with drag an drop at the end of the pdf then the "consolidation duplicate fonts" takes up to 10 minutes to complete. During this time, i cannot work with any pdf. This is very disturbing to my workflow.
How can i disable this "consolidating duplicate fonts"?
I do not need any fonts-funktionalitiy at all. Cleaning everything and all the fonts through the optimization-funktion has no effect. Please do not start a dicussion, why this und why that. I do just need to get rid of this waiting-time "consolidating duplicate fonts".
Hardware i7, 16gb, Win 7, SSD, etc.
Any Solution?
Zeitler

Mark,
we recently dealt with a similar issue with removing duplicates. We inherited over 500M detail records from the source system. I tried several versions, due to performance issues, and found the following worked the best for us. Hope it helps.
It deletes all but the first occurence, depending on sort order - 'col4' .
CREATE TABLE temp_duplicates AS
   SELECT
       ordr_num
      ,itm_num
      ,case_num
      ,CAST(NULL AS NUMBER) num_dups
   FROM sms.marrs_case
   WHERE NULL IS NOT NULL;
INSERT /*+ APPEND */ INTO temp_duplicates
SELECT
    ordr_num
   ,itm_num
   ,case_num
   ,COUNT(*) num_dups
FROM sms.marrs_case
GROUP BY
    ordr_num
   ,itm_num
   ,case_num
HAVING COUNT(*) > 1;
DELETE FROM sms.marrs_case
WHERE ROWID IN
   SELECT sub_rowid
   FROM
      SELECT mc.ROWID sub_rowid
         ,rank() OVER (PARTITION BY mc.ordr_num, mc.itm_num, mc.case_num ORDER BY mc.col4 ASC) rank_dups
      FROM temp_duplicates dups
         ,sms.marrs_case mc
      WHERE
          dups.ordr_num   = mc.ordr_num
      AND dups.itm_num    = mc.itm_num
      AND dups.case_num   = mc.case_num
   WHERE rank_dups > 1
   );Message was edited by:
MScallion
changed 'first row' to 'first occurence'

'Permanently' Resolving Duplicate Fonts...

Hi...
In the process of doing occasional system maintenance, the font cache file is sometimes deleted... which means (for me) going back to Font Book and resolving duplicate fonts.
Is there any way to resolve duplicates semi-permanently? I'm relatively new to OS X and don't know many of the ins and outs. Can I 'physically' remove duplicates safely?
How?
Thanks much...
Peter B.
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Duplicate Fonts W/ Office 04

I had a question with fonts and office.
Is it just me or does office install duplicate fonts into the Username>Library>Fonts? i have provided screen shots:
Username>library>fonts:
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8498/fontsuserpu3.jpg
and
Applications>MicrosoftOffice>Office>Fonts:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7603/fontsofficekr2.jpg
If its possible to remove the fonts from the Username Library Fonts folder will i still have access to the fonts installed my microsoft in applications such as Photoshop/Macromedia Studio etc??
or should i just leave them?
thank you!!

im wondering if theyd have any advert affect at all having two of the same fonts (installed by office) on my system.
Having duplicate fonts will always cause issues. Usually with the conflicting fonts not showing up in most applications as the system can't assign definite memory address space to either one.
I can't say how well Font Book does at resolving conflicts since I don't use it. But just the fact that Font Book leaves all fonts in their respective Fonts folders means that they're still going to conflict in any app that doesn't pay attention to Font Book's command that a font is supposed to be inactive when it's still in a Fonts folder.
You're really better off finding the duplicate fonts yourself and deleting one or the other. If they're the same type, like Microsoft's Arial font in more than one Fonts folder, it doesn't matter which one you remove. If they're different types, like Helvetica.dfont in the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder, and a Type 1 PostScript or OpenType version of Helvetica somewhere else, then you need to decide which is the more important version for you to keep on the system and remove the other.
Keep in mind that a font like Helvetica.dfont is actually a suitcase containing more than one font. In this case, it holds Helvetica and Helvetica Bold. So if you don't have a different version of Helvetica Bold to use, then removing Helvetica.dfont will also cause any application (like iCal) that uses the bold version to have it unavailable.
It gets trickier with OS 9. There's a Helvetica there, too. But OS 9 can't read .dfonts, so if you need to use Helvetica in an OS 9 (Classic) application, then you can't remove the OS 9 version regardless of the fact that it technically conflicts with the OS X version. Though that conflict will only affect OS X apps. OS X can read any fonts in the OS 9 Fonts folder, but OS 9 can't read or see any fonts in the various OS X Fonts folders.
Also, as Tom mentions, the fonts in the Office folder are meaningless. The only conflicts you would have would be between those in the Username>Library>Fonts folder and the other three main Fonts folders on the hard drive. Those are:
/Library/Fonts/
/System/Library/Fonts/
/System Folder/Fonts/

Secuity Preference pane and duplicate fonts

I resolved duplicates in Fontbook and after that I could not open Security Preference Pane. Some duplicate fonts I could not resolve, such as Time, Monaco and Helvetica. After this I can not open Security Prefernce Pane or it will crash. After reverting back to duplicate fonts I could open the pane. Some explanation ? Does this pane need duplicate fonts ??

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Arial black
Arial Narrow
Arial Rounded MT Bold
Baskerwill Ol Face
Bell MT
Brush Script MT
Comic Sans
Copperplate Gothic Light
Copperplate Gothic Bold
Curlz MT
Desdemona
Edwardian Script ITC
Engravers MT
Eurostile
Footlight MT Light
Garamond
Georgia
Gil Sans Ultra Bold
Goudy Old style
Haettenschweilwe
Harrington
Helvetica
Hoefler Text
Impact
Imprint MT Shadow
Lucidia Blackletter
Lucidia Grande
Lucidia Handwriting
Mistral
Modern No. 20
Monaco
NewsGothic MT
Onyx
Perpetua Titling MT
Playbill
Rockwell
Rockwell extra bold
Skia
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Tahoma
Times news roman
Trebuchet MS
Verdana
Wide Latin
Wingdings 2
Wingdings 3

How do I delete duplicate fonts in font folder?

Multiple copies of TimesSem Oct 21, 2013 7:24 PM Zero bytes Document are in my font folder. Exactly 147,134 copies. I've been deleting them in batches and emptying the Trash but it's taking a long time. How do I get rid of them quicker?
What may have caused this? I reorganized fonts on my iMac following directions in Extensis Font Management in Mac OSX, 7th Edition. I don't want the same problem when I reorganize fonts on the MacBook Pro.

The so-called duplicates are in a folder I made to hold all my fonts. These are blank documents that were created somehow when I moved my user fonts into the folder. I clicked on one or two and they are just blanks with no size to them. The actual Times Semibold Italic font works fine in my applications.
"TimesSem Oct 21, 2013 7:24 PM Zero bytes Document " numbered from 1 to 147,134.
I rebooted my imac and the process of moving these docs to the Trash and Emptying the Trash is going faster, but I've got over 96,000 yet to delete. Any other way to get rid of them quicker?

Finding Duplicate Fonts

Is there a preferably free application that will compare font files to find duplicates? For example I have two fonts, one called Bertram, the other Comic Strip, both look like this sample.
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Font Book only compares and shows duplicates for
fonts that have the same name, not those with
different names.
Fonts are identified by their names and format, not how they "look." I don't think you will find any program, free or not, that compares how they look.

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