Duplicate library within Aperture 3

I'm a novice user whose not gonna know all the relevant information the knowledgeable and helpful folks will need to thoroughly answer my question, but here's the best I can do. Perhaps with specific questions, I'll be able to provide more information.
The problem: Aperture contains two librarys: (1) iphoto Library and (2) Project Library. Project Library is larger and all projects and photos within the iphoto Library are duplicates of projects and photos within the Project Library.
Solution I'm working towards: eliminate the duplicate iphoto Lilbrary.
Facts: I do not know how Aperture was initially set up and how the iphoto Library was imported into Aperture, as hubby did that quite some time ago. My masters are now referenced on an external drive. My husband and I both tried to figure out how to properly do this and I just noticed that there were two duplicate folders on our external drive. I effectively housed the masters in a folder on the external called "Aperture Masters." I just attempted to send to trash the two duplicate folders: one named "iphoto library" and the other named "TSP photos." I left the folders in the trash and have not emptied them from the trash.
After I sent these duplicate folders from the external drive to the trash, I opened Aperture again, and the duplicate iphoto Library is still there. However, the icon that shows that it's a referenced file now has a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark on it. When I click "locate master," it shows me the external drive and the path to the photo I had selected in the iphoto library within Aperture is in red (indicating there's a problem with it). I located the same photo within the Project Library and there is no yellow triangle with exclamation mark on it on the referenced icon and when I click locate master, I can do so without the path showing in red.
Question: Is the final step simply to empty the Trash and then the duplicate library will be gone? Is there anything else with which I need to be concerned to properly eliminate the duplicate library?
Thank you for your time in answering!

One thing to remember is that Aperture does not contain libraries. Aperture libraries are the places where your images are stored to be accessed by the Aperture application. You can have multiple libraries on your system at any one time but only one copy of Aperture the application.
So if I am understanding your situation: You have two Aperture libraries one named iPhoto and one named Project. The Project library contains everything that is in the Aperture library named iPhoto (bad choice of names BTW as it is easy to get confused with iPhoto itself) plus more.
The two libraries do not share any masters.
You now want to delete the Aperture library named iPhoto. You moved referenced masters that this library was referencing to the trash.
This is what I would do: Open the Project library, go to the Photos icon in the Library tab of the Inspector. Make sure the search box says Showing All, select all the images and open the filter HUD and filter for missing images like so:
If the browser is empty then all the images in this library are accounted for and you can empty the trash and delete the Aperture library named iPhoto. If anything shows up then you need to figure out what's going on before you delete anything.
good lick.

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When you go to File -> Import -> iPhoto Library, select "In their current location" in the "Store Files" option.
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I'm a new Mac user. I have been in the very slow and tedious process of transferring my photos from my HP hard drive to my Mac. I used iPhoto for a very brief time before purchasing Aperture 3. (I've used photoshop for years.) I haven't yet Imported or consolidated or whatever the correct term would be the iPhoto library into the Aperture library. I've been avoiding it because I know there are some duplicates. Mainly just a few "Events" from the last few weeks before starting using Aperture. Now with the new update, it seems like it's a great time to get it all consolidated into an Aperture library that I can use in both iPhoto and Aperture. What's the easiest way for me to proceed? I'm sorry for my lack of proper Mac terms....I'm learning!
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Clear as mud??
If you want to see all your images - those now in your Aperture Library and those in your iPhoto Library- then you need to merge both Libraries into one Library - I'd import your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library.
This combined Library will be compatible with both Applications.
To merge your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library do the following:
Make a backup of your current iPhoto library (libraries)
Upgrade to iPhoto 9.3, if you have not already done so.
Open your iPhoto Library at least once in Photo 9.3 to upgrade the Library.
Unhide all hidden images. You cannot unhide them when viewing the Library in Aperture.
Quit iPhoto.
If you have not already upgraded to Aperture 3.3, do it like this:
Backup your current Aperture library.
Rebuild the Aperture Database using the Aperture Library First Aid Tools: Launch Aperture with the cmd-options-key combination (⌘⌥) firmly held down, then select "Rebuild Database".
After rebuilding upgrade to Aperture 3.3 and launch Aperture to upgrade the Aperture Library.
With Aperture still open, double click your iPhoto Library. Aperture will prompt you, if you want to add or merge your iPhoto Library - choose "Merge". This will avoid importing duplicate images, as far as Aperture can tell that those are the same images - same filename.
You will have to weed out some duplicates yourself - this is best be done by sorting the images by capture date, then duplicate shots will appear side by side.
Post back, if you have more questions.
Regards
Léonie

When I imported from IPhoto to Aperture did I create a duplicate library?

Background:
I am new to Mac and all its applications having moved from a crashed PC and Picassa to an IMAC and Aperture. I got the machine in December of 2011 and all applicatiopns and the OS are up to date.
Apple store ported over all my files and the pics went to IPhoto. As soon as I got home with no knowledge and my brand new machine I downloaded Aperture.
I assume I was prompted by Aperture to import all my Iphotos but I don't remember how this was done. Since I am so ignorant about Macs I assume that I didn't do anything other than follow the prompts. My 1TB drive is almost full and I was surfing for solutions when I found a post about duplicate libraries.
Questions:
1 Not knowing how I got to where I am, how do I determine if I have seperate Libraries? I assumed thet both IPhoto and Aperture shared the same Library but I think that is a wrong assumption.
2 What is the procedure for deleting the Iphoto Library if I do have a duplicate Library?
3 I have a gazillion pics in the trash due to multiple imports. I assumed that I was only moving pointers to the trash and that all these duplications were not true duplicates, I now think that this is a wrong assumption. If these are indeed duplicates then dumping trash will free up a lot of space ?
4 Is there any way to globally eliminate all duplicates?

Blayne,
before you do any restructuring of your libraries, I would recommend to update your software (MacOS X, Aperture, and iPhoto) to the latest versions. Lauch the AppStore to see, if any updates are waiting. There have been some important bugfixes in the past month.
Also make sure you have a current and working backup of all your libraries.
assume I was prompted by Aperture to import all my Iphotos but I don't remember how this was done. Since I am so ignorant about Macs I assume that I didn't do anything other than follow the prompts.
There are essentially three different ways to import an iPhoto library to Aperture. It will depend on the Import settings you choose, where your images are stored:
When you import the iPhoto library using: " File > Import > iPhoto Library" you will see an Import Panel like this:
If you selected Store Files "In the Aperture Library", then all your images from iPhoto are now duplicated in the Aperture Library package, and you can safely delete your iPhoto Library after backing it up.
If you selected Store Files "In their current location", then the master image files of your Aperture images are still in their original location - in the iPhoto Library - and you must not delete the iPhoto Library.
If you selected Store Files "Choose", and selected a folder, then your master image files are currently in some folder outside the Aperture library, but not in the iPhoto Library.
Since you do not remember, what your settings were, I think it would be the safest, to consolidate all your images into the Aperture library, whereever they are now. This will give you a tidy starting point for your future work. To consolidate:
Select the "Photos" View in the Library Inspector panel, and select all your images in the browser.
Then select "File > Consolidate Masters" from the main Aperture menu bar.
This will move all master image files into the Aperture library. Compare the size of your Aperture library before and after. Then you can delete the iPhoto library.
I have a gazillion pics in the trash due to multiple imports. I assumed that I was only moving pointers to the trash and that all these duplications were not true duplicates, I now think that this is a wrong assumption. If these are indeed duplicates then dumping trash will free up a lot of space ?
After consolidating you can empty the Aperture Trash. Thedisk space will only be freed, after you empty the trash on your Desktop as well.
Regards
Léonie
P.S: Post back, if you have more questions.

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Tell us more, please. I am not quite sure, what you want to do and how you are using Aperture and iPhoto?
Which versions of Aperture and iPhoto are you using?
Do you have separate photo libraries for Aperture and iPhoto, or are you opening your iPhoto libraries in Aperture?
I have Iphoto library in Apeture.
Did you import an iPhoto library into Aperture? And now you are seeing a section "iPhoto Library" in the Aperture projects list in the Inspector?
Events and albums you imported from iPhoto (Import > Library > Some iPhoto Library) will be imported as Aperture projects and albums, and they will behave exactly as other Aperture projects and albums.
Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the aperture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty.
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I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.
There should be no problem with moving all photos from the same years to the same projects. You can also drag projects in "Projects" view on top of each other. That will merge them.
You could also define smart albums in Aperture to search for images taken at a specific period of time:
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Unable to import my iPhoto library to Aperture.

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I reinstalled my system on a new hard drive, from time machine. However my old photos seem corrupt within aperture. iphoto seems okay. Have you heard of this?

I reinstalled my system on a new hard drive, from time machine. However my old photos seem corrupt within aperture. iphoto seems okay. New photos take a long time to load as well.
Have you heard of this?
Thanks

We need a little more information to be able to help.
However my old photos seem corrupt within aperture.
What kind of corruption? And when do you see it? All your images, or only some? Are the images distorted, discolored, or not displayed at all?
Are you shooting in raw? Is your library referenced or managed? Is your library on your system volume or on an external harddrive?
And it would help to know your MacOS version and Aperture version too.
Regards
Léonie

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I just looked more closely. It appears that most of my folders have duplicates of the same image with exactly the same file name. And all the images with the error message have them on both duplicates (i.e. one on an image that has an empty thumbnail, and one on an image that's fine).
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EDIT 2:
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a) Find all the error'd images that are empty/blank and delete them, and then
b) Find and remove all duplicates
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But now, i see that there are images that i imported into Aperture months ago that have the same problem. And the new thing is that there are duplicates with errors where *both* images are visible (whereas for the iPhoto library i just imported, there were dupes where one version was blank and the other was visible and seemingly ok).
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UPDATE 2:
The users in these 2 threads seem to have a similar File Status Not Found issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4086569?tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17757686#17757686
Followed Leonie's advice to look for the (missing) masters inside the Masters folder, and indeed, they were missing. So, that confirms the reason for the error message.
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Of course, the question is - why the masters for these few images are missing, when the other images in the same project that were imported/merged at the same time are fine.
Trying to do the library import/merge from iPhoto into Aperture again. Fingers crossed. Will report back on the result.

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Please let me know the secret.
Thanks!

Léonie, Thank you for your rapid reply!
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Your plan to move the iPhoto library to an external hard drive is exactly what I did when I imported my iPhoto library into Aperture. I kept it around for quite a while until I was satisfied that I didn't accidentally leave something in there that I didn't import into Aperture.
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This option should be used as your last measure as it can be time-consuming for large image libraries. If you have tried repairing your database, and the issues you are encountering with your Aperture library still persist, you should use the Rebuild Database option. Aperture examines the library’s entire database and rebuilds each component until it reconstitutes your original Aperture library.
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