Duplicate member names 9.3.1

The planning documentation seems to suggest that duplicate member names can occur in Planning 9.3.1 although I have seen a post ~(Nov 2007) on here that states that this won't be available until 9.5.
Is this still the case?
If not, is there any documentation showing how this can be achieved from within bpma/planning? It all seems to suggest it is done in Essbase but that leaves me in a chicken and egg situation as I can't deploy it to essbase with duplicates.
Cheers

Ok guys, back on this issue.
If I wanted to model the following hierarchy in Planning, given the absence of the duplicate members facility, how would you go about it?
Group - Product
Cars - Wheel
Cars - Seat
Cars - Window
Vans - Wheel
Vans - Seat
etc
where all products are not shared and must be able to accept individual values. This is a simple example so creating another dimension isn't an option.
This is a very real requirement and I'm wondering whether I'm missing something very obvious here. Are we really limited to planning hierarchies where duplicate product names are not used? Am I going about this in the wrong way?
Any guidance on how I should be solving this problem greatly appreciated.
Regards

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user10275812 wrote:
Hi,
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SAP Note 1641529 - Loading Master Data gets duplicate error in special case
When running Data Manager Package 'Loading Master Data from BW
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case:
o In the source BW InfoObjects, there are master data that have
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Other terms
DM, Loading Master Data from BW, Duplicate Members
Reason and Prerequisites
It's a program error.
Solution
Please apply this note or upgrade to SP11.
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user10275812 wrote:
Hi,
Can someone please let me know whether we can have same member name in a dimension for building a cube?
For Example:
I have one dimension Dim1 (Hierarchy) ,
Level2     Level1     Leaf     Leaf Code
L13 -      L11 -      L1 -      10
L13 -      L11 -      L2 -      11
L13 -      L12 -      L3 -      12
L13 -     L12 -      L4 -      13
L14 -      L11 -      L5 -      14
In this hierarchy, L11 is a member name in Level1 used under L13 and L14. Does Essbase cube support this?
Yes this is possible. You will have to enable the option for outline to allow duplicate members.
-Nra

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English :
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