Duplicate Song Names ...

Hi ...
I recently moved my iTunes folder to my D:\ drive in order to free up room on my C:\ drive. I then went into Preferences --> Advanced and changed to folder to point to the new location. No problem, right?
After doing this, my iTunes library now shows every song name twice. I've updated to the latest version and the problem hasn't gone away.
FYI ... I did 'move' the files and did not 'copy' them.
It's not preventing iTunes from functioning, but it is extremely annoying. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Dan
Sony Windows XP

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