Duration units were removed?

What is going on? I made a volunteer hour spreadsheet on my iPad, sent to iTunes, saved to my hard drive, then opened it in numbers.
Every cell that was formatted in duration and had data had a little blue triangle and when clicked showed "Duration units were removed". Cells that showed a 0 did not have the blue triangle.
Why would it remove the duration units if it was formatted Duration? Any ideas?
Thanks

I don't own an iPad and have no plan to buy one but
reading this post and the one which you posted in an other thread dedicated to durations, I guess that there is a difference between the way duration structures are built in the two kind of machines. If I am right, we may just hope that we will retrieve a bit of consistency with the new iWork for mac which will be delivered one day
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 20 décembre 2010 21:17:31

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I used a formula (the formula is =MAX(K21-8, 0) if that helps) to calculate OT hours worked from a shift. I wanted it to show 0 if none, and the # of hours over 8 if more than 8 were worked. I needed it to show 0 for the total weekly calculations each week and YTD. This works perfectly fine. But it has a blue triangle in the corner and when I hover over it, it says "Duration units were removed". This is also ok, doesn't cause any problems...yet.
I am trying to have another box show total regular hours worked that day. There are some days where employee will work 5 hours, or 7 hours, and others will be 10 hours or 12 hours.
I am using the "IF" formula, trying to say IF(the amount of hours in a particular cell are less than 8, then just copy the same time/number/duration from that particular cell, if not just write 8)
NONE of the several ways I have tried have worked. I am not very numbers friendly..... Dont understand too much.
This is what I am using =IF(K21<8, K21, "8") - but I have also tried with=IF(K21=<8, "K21", "8hrs") and just about every combo possible.
Not only do none of them work, all coming up with a red error, I think I may be able to get them to work if I can 'remove the duration units' like the other cells automatically did.
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Hi pw,
K21 contains a duration value, from which the formula subtracts a number. Since the number is NOT a duration, and no units are specified for it, Numbers makes an assumption regarding the unit value associate with this number, strips the duration from the value in K21, and presents the result of the subtraction. That result is a number, not a duration, and could be wrong if Numbers made a wrong assumption, hence the warning.
One way to get rid of the warnng triangle (and to ensure that the subtraction result is what you want it to be) is to convert the duration to the equivalent number of hours:
=MAX(DUR2HOURS(K21)-8, 0)
With this conversion, the formula is subtracting a number ( 8 ) from a number ( DUR2HOURS(K21) ), and no warning is generated.
"I am trying to have another box show total regular hours worked that day."
You can pull these out of the total using a similar formula to the one above. Any hours worked, to a maximum of 8, is regular time. Anything over 8 is OT. To determine OT hours, you subtracted 8 from total hours, and used the result if it was greater than zero, and zero if that was greater than the (negative) result. Here's the other side of that:
=MIN(DUR2HOURS(K21),8)
If the number of hours worked that day ( DUR2HOURS(K21) ) is less than 8, then that's the number of regular hours that day. If it's greater than 8, then the number of regular hours worked is 8.
Here's a table showing the results for several durations of work day:
Formulas in C and D as shown above, with B2, etc. replacing K21.
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I have a timesheet file with several sheets, each with several tables. One sheet uses one of its tables to keep a running total of hours worked in several different categories, using a SUMIF function based on another table where the hours are logged.
I am getting unexplained behavior with the cells where the totals are displayed. These are formatted as durations, but when their value is zero they display as currency, and sometimes (but not always) they continue to display as currency when their value is non-zero, even though they are the sum of durations in the other table. There is a little blue triangle in the upper left corner of the cell, which when I click on it gives a message "Duration units were removed", with no option but to "Ignore".
What is going on? I don't want the duration units removed, and I don't want to ignore the matter -- I want to correct it! How do I do so?
I should point out that this has nothing to do with another thread on a similar topic, in which the poster had created his file on an iPad and then opened it on his Mac. I am working entirely on a Mac.

I'm sure Jerry's got hold of the right part of the problem. After I posted the problem, I ascertained that the inconsistency resulted from part of the sum being blank, i.e. numeric zero.
The logging table works like this: category, start_time, finish_time, hours = IF(ISBLANK(finishtime),"",finish_time-starttime).
The running total table works like this: totalcategory1 = SUMIF(category,"category_1",hours), totalcategories2+3 = SUMIF(category,"category2",hours)+SUMIF(category,"category3",hours), etc.
What seemed like inconsistency was that totalcategory1 became a proper duration as soon as I had a non-zero sum in category 1, whereas totalcategories2+3 remained a currency value as long as I had a zero in either category 2 or 3.
So the inconsistency was a red herring. What remains is three questions: (1) Why currency? (2) [more important] Is there anything I can do to get around this counter-intuitive and undesirable behavior? (3) [much less important] Why is it that, in another cell formatted as duration, I can enter 0 and have it format as "0h 0m"?
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Hi all, i have been through many other duration units removed error posts and i cant find an answer to my problem, maybe my formula is too simole... all other posts have involved IF and SUMIF.
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Hi Ian,
Thanks for your reply
Ive been working on the sheet for a while now and have the completed one, however the errors are still present, it appears to calculate somewhat correctly. However your sugestions were not sucesfull.
The formulas are fine in Excel, infact u was using a much more complex one in Excel but was trying to simplifly it all down to work out the bugs from crossing over from Excel to Numbers
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