Dv pal anamorphic?

we have recorded some material that was obviously shot at dv pal anamorphic settings.
when i open the quicktime clips in qt-player, it shows as
DV 720 x 576 (1024x576)
in final cut, we have tried finding the correct settings for timeline, but no matter what we try, fcp seems to insist on adding black bars on top and below.
when encoding, we end up with 4:3 video, neatly blackboxed.
as nicely as this is, i would like to know how to get fcp to treat the video at it's native format and how to get compressor to encode it as such.
would prefer the dvd-player to decide how to display the video from there on...
any suggestions on where to look?
there used to be an "anamorphic" setting in fcp once upon a time, but that seems to have disappeared - or has it been replaced? if so, with what?
thanks

Hi Rene,
In oder to have handle FCP this in the right way you need to capture it as DV PAL anamorphic in the first place. An Easy Setup should exsist, but you can simply use DV PAL preset and set the anamorphic checkbox in the capture preset (preferences) as well as the timeline presets.
I you by accident did not capture the material as Anamorphic, you easily tell FCP that it really is anamorphic, by checkmarking the anamorphc column in the Browser.
If you forgot to set the sequence/timeline settings to anamorphic BEFORE dropping footage in it, then first set the settings of that sequence by checkmarking the anamorphic chekmark in the timeline settings (Command 0).
Then choose all clips in the sequence and Remove Attributes (Command-Option-V). In that pop-up menu choose Distort. This will remove the aspect settings that FCP created automattically when you dropped anamorphic material in a 4:3 timeline or vice versa.
Hope this helps.
Rienk

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