DV Start/Stop detect with iMovie

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?forumID=936&threadID=557928
Because this thread was marked solved I can't add to it.
I think the problem is the rendering as you surmised. There is no way to fix this problem because of the way iMovie works. It captures without timecode so every clip begins at zero. Once you've rendered the material and moved it to the browser the render file looks to the TC on the clip to sync up. Once it's broken up every subclip starts with zero because it has no inherent timecode so the render file associated with zero TC links to every subclip.

Hi Tom,
thanks for addressing that topic again (I had just marked it "solved" because it was open by a long time...).
I see what you mean: since there is no TC in the .dv from iMovie there is no way to sync the audio render file and the subclips. Another interpretation is that DV Start/Stop Detect applies only to the original .dv media, not to audio (item level) render file created in the timeline, so FCE cannot associate different sections of the audio render file to the corresponding subclips.
But now that I read it again... I think we are just saying the same thing!
And you are suggesting a feedback would be useless.
Thanks anyway
Piero

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