DV2000 Graphics card overheating on idle

Hey folks.
Seems I'm not alone in this (according to google searches)
My Go6150 chip idles at 82oC on idle, which is really bad. Not only does it cause the underside of my laptop to heat up, the plastic will get so hot it'll burn your hand (or worse, lap) The cpu runs at 42o idle, but notebook regularly crashes from video card overheating (and I'm not even gaming most times!) Any idea what gives? Solutions? I thought about taking the laptop apart and pulling out the logic board to try and change out the thermal compound(or pad) with some Arctic silver but I'd rather not have to do that myself if there is an easier way to fix it up.
What say you?

me, i just help other people ok, i have exoerienced this and i dint want anybody to exp it ANYmore, ok i also used to idle at around 85, take note, im not running anything, what i did is get a copper coin, 1 cent, i softened it, opened up the notebook, saw the gpu, with the garbage thermal pad, i cleaned all the crap of thermal grease hp used, and put arctic silver 5, just small dob. put the penny on top of the gpu, and on top of the penny, a small dob again, close the heatsink with it, and make sure it touches the penny, tighten it a bit so that the gpu wont be separated to the board again, in down to 50 degrees celsius, if i were you, i would do this before your laptop dies, it will PREVENT it, and extend your laptops life up to 3 years, if you do not have any experience, call for a technician, have him done it.. the gpu itself doesnt overheat, its the design flaw of the heatsink to the gpu, the thermal pad they used breakes allowing the gpu to have a gap of 2mm and when the sokdering in the gpu gets hot, they expand, so it would be very helpful for you to tighten it ABIT, you wont regret it. i promise you just be careful you might damage your board, so i would recommend you to have it in a technician, i wont say hope this helps, it really will help you, if you have will to do it, dont hesitate that it might be hard,

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Can someone Please help me with any suggestions or otherwisde I will have to go to a Apple store and ask for help there.
Thank You,
Trisha Foster
<Edited by Moderator>

Hi Trisha,
The only modern Mac's with video cards are the Mac Pro and Xserve (server) systems. They both are priced quite a bit higher than any Mac Mini.
Some systems, like the Mac Book Pro laptop can be ordered with different graphics cards, but that has be done when the system is built, as it is not replaceable once the system is built. To find out which systems, go to store.apple.com. For each system that you select, you can see if there's an option for a better video card.
David

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I have the latest nVidia drivers installed. I even tried an earlier set of nVidia drivers and the same things happened. Also yes, it is firmly seated in the PCI-E slot and yes, the power cable is firmly plugged in.
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Do I have a defective card? If so I will get it replaced from Newegg.
Also I don't know if I am running the latest vbios. GPU-Z says I have 84.06.14.00.F3
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I would like to play games and I was wondering if I could upgrade the graphics (such as a nvidia card that I could buy and put in) or are the graphics fixed?
I would just like to know if I am able to upgrade?
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In my opinion the graphic card and/or the CPU is not soldered on the new notebook generation. The parts should be simply plugged on the board.
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I've searched at length for this problem, and as a user rather than a tech have suspicions, rather than certainty.
Have been suffering with my Mac Pro going intermittently to shutdown rather than sleep for a while, I've been living with that. But a new problem has appeared just in the last day or so, I don't necessarily think they are connected, but what do I know?
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I hit the start button, initial whirring, then stop, the machine appears to be off, but after 10-20secs, it starts again, then immediately stops, and repeat, and repeat. Strangely though, eventually it starts to get further into boot up each time, maybe it gets to the apple logo, and shutdowns, and repeats, and repeats, then OS X loading screen, shutdown, wait 10secs restarts on its own, eventually it gets to the deskstop and shuts down, before running eventually. It started doing this yesterday, thought it might be because I've moved it a couple of times, connecting an ethernet cable, (awkward having the socket on the back!). So I checked everything firmly seated inside, and very carefully hoovered out the dust (although that wasn't bad).
Reset SMC, reset energy saver settings, ran the tech tool for the Apple Care disk, removed all my crucial.com extra ram, and inserted Apple's original heat sunked RAM, no change.
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As to the start up problem, if it were a vehicle I'd be thinking it was damp electrics, and be spraying WD40 to dry it out, I'm not of course, but I'm thinking power supply, or a temperature issue, but as its working when running 4 hours and working nicely now (so long as I don't leave to 'sleep') I can't see it being an overheating issue.
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Its business critical machine, as a videographer although I bought this MacBook Pro, from which I'm typing, for just this scenario which I'll use at a pinch.
Message was edited by: Northern Munkee

You may want to just get one utility for now.
At this point, do you need a new graphic card? then you need to upgrade to Leopard. If your software and system won't be a problem regardless of compatibility great, but make sure. Otherwise, Snow Leopard will likely require lots more upgrades and updates.
But maybe doing an upgrade to Leopard and then test the waters with Leopard and Snow L. makes better sense.
Only the "Early, Early" 2006-7 1st Gen Mac Pros can run 10.4.11 (or at least install and officially supported).
The product pages have misleading information but you do need 10.5.7 for the 4870 which is your best graphics upgrade choice. The 3870 came out a year ago and requires 10.5.3+.

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Hi there,
The display on my mac has all of sudden gone haywire, there's bars across the entire screen that keep on changing colours/flickering etc, and when I try to drag open windows they become blocks of noisey colour.
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Apologies for the long message, and for any spelling mistakes as I can barely see what i'm typing, any advice most appreciated.

I would suggest first blowing compressed air all around the inside including logic board and video card (if you are adept at removing the card and reinstalling the better, careful not braking the AGP clip at the end of the slot that latches into the end of the card). Also keep the can upright at all times. This should help dislodge dust that build up over time and may cause overheating and unusual operation.
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