DVC Pro HD codec

Hi guys:
I'm editing firewire-captured DVCPro HD footage from a Varicam for a series I'm working on. I don't understand the codec thing for After Effects movies. We use a lot of AE in our productions, but we if we use the DVCPro HD codec, we can't get video with an alpha channel. We can only get either RGB or alpha. So we've had to resort to checking "none" in the AE output module, and 1280x720 for the size. This gives us the movie, but then they all have to render. This can take a great deal of time in a one-hour program.
Any suggestions on how to alleviate this issue?

I wasn't aware that DVCProHD supported an alpha channel.
Could be wrong, but where have you seen that?

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H.264 isn't an editing codec. He can see it, but edit it? Well, I guess Premiere might. H.264 is highly compressed, and I doubt it will key well.
Send him the ORIGINAL P2 files...the stuff you offloaded from the card. Premiere can work with P2, just not after they have been imported into FCP.
Please tell me you kept the original P2 card dumps.
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I'm working on a project that has been edited in DVC Pro HD (720p). There are a lot of layered effects and color adjustments. We want to move the project to a 10-bit codec for final rendering and mastering.
What is the best way to make this transition?
Is it better to use the Media Manager to make a recompressed copy of the project, change the codec in the Sequence Settings and force a rerender, or simply export a quicktime movie with a 10-bit codec? (will simply exporting re-render the effects in 10-bit color space?)
We're using FCP 5.1.4 and a Kona LHe card on a MacPro Quad G5

dwburman wrote:
We're using FCP 5.1.4 and a Kona LHe card on a MacPro Quad G5
What do you mean by final rendering and mastering? I ask because I'd argue that the benefits of going 10-bit (vs 8-bit, in most cases) only apply to smoother gradients and intensive color correction (where you're aggressively altering color balance, recoloring shots or greatly adjusting contrast). If all that has already been done, I'm not sure that I, personally, see the benefit in what you're looking to do.
Also, since you're working with FCP 5.1.4 - and cannot go ProRes422 - can you afford the extra hard drive space and drain on your resources? Correct me if I'm wrong, but your only choice would be to go from DVCProHD to 10-Bit Uncompressed. Which means files, what, about 4-5x larger?
All those doubts aside - meaning you have the drive space available and have yet to do color correction - I'd use Media Manager to create a new project using only the media referenced and, as mentioned by ap_TonyTony, use FCP to render out in 10-bit.
If you're also looking to uprez the material (going up to 1080p, for instance) then I'd dump those new clips into Compressor, crank up the Frame Controls and let the machine churn out files for the next 3 days. Once that's done, I'd go into your fresh Media Manager-created project and do a manual reconnect to your 1080p stuff.
Or am I totally lost on what you're attempting to do?

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ok... i just got this on mine. yesterday i was just getting ready to log subclips from fcp5, and when i opened the project file, i noticed that all my subclips i created and orignal clip where all red / out. so i closed fcp5 and went to the location of the file. i double clicked it, and behold, white screen, audio only.. so i had to completely redo the convertion of the orginal file.
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Hi,
Thanks for your answer,
but my "problem" is that i dont have a mac,
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and after the user must to edit the movie (letter, logo,...)
so, the quality must be "good" or "very good"
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http://www.squared5.com/
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Find out if they can take an Uncompressed AVI. (I'd be surprised if they couldn't.)

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