DVC Pro HD720p25 film

Hi,
We're looking at filming a viral soon on DVCPro HD720p 25, on a Panasonic HDX900. I've got a couple of questions regarding editing:
1. I'm using a 2.16GHz MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo, with FCP 5.1.4. Ideally we want to shoot in HD720p25, but as FCP can't accept this format, we're having to shoot HD720p24. Will this cause any problems when converting to 25p and how would we do it? Would we keep the film at 24p during the grade and dub too, then convert?
2. How much hard drive space would DVCPro HD720p24 use?
3. Will I be able to edit the footage with 2.16GHz processor speed, or is it best to offline first? How would we offline?
Many thanks for your help.

Because FCP does work with DVCPRO HD 720p25, but you have to capture it as 720p50 if using FCP 5.0 or 5.1...FCP 6 should allow fcor capture of 720p25. I heard that 6.0.1 allows for it now. So don't shoot 720p24, just shoot 720p25, but use the 720p50 codec. It should work.
720p24 uses 24GB/hour of space.
I can edit DVCPRO HD 720p60 on my Powerbook G4 1.67ghz, so your computer will be plenty fast. Don't offline/online with this format...there is no need.
Shane

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