DVCPRO HD 720pN24 and HDV 1080i60

Can you cut with DVCPRO HD 720pN24 and HDV 1080i60 in the same sequence of FCP? If so, how do I do this?

Open Format Timeline Feature
In Final Cut Pro 6, you can freely mix clips with different formats in a single sequence and play back the sequence in real time.
This allows you to combine formats such as standard definition (SD) and high definition (HD) video, full-resolution and offline-quality video, and video with mixed frame rates, field dominance, and scanning methods (interlaced and progressive).
Might want to peek at that manual.
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/finalcutpro/?movie=openformattimeline

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How edit DVCPro HD and HDV footage in the same multi-clip project?

Dear All
I am to edit a music video material shot with two cameras. I received the footage as .mov files, but one file is a DVCPro HD 1080i50 codec and the other is a HDV 1080i50 codec. - It seems the music concert was recorded on two different cameras (I guess one was Panasonic the other Sony).
How can I edit the music video using multi-clip editing? - I guess I will have to reconvert one of the footage-format to match the other format. If so, which conversion assures the best quality: from DVCPro HD to HDV or vice versa?
Or should I ask for the original tapes and then import all as a HDV codec (is that possible with the DVCPro?)?
I have never worked with the DVCPro codec before. So any links further explanations and tutorials are appreciated.
Many thanks,
Hynek

Dear Tom
Thank you for the tip. I converted the DVCPro footage into a HDV file and it looks good. The new file is only 9BG compared to the DVCPro file of 39GB. Quite surprising that such a down-conversion still results in a rather good quality.
Hynek

Importing HDV 1080i60 as HDV 720p30

I have a sony HDR FX1 and I want to import the HDV 1080i60 footage I took into FCP as HDV 720p30. What is the easiest way to do this?

You can't do this without a capture card. But, if you had a card, then it would be best to capture as DVCPRO HD 720p.
You cannot cross convert via firewire.
Shane

Mixing XDCAM and HDV?? Outputting to SD DVD...

Hi
Earlier this year we shot a documentary on a Sony PDW-F350L HD XDCam (great camera, stunning footage - 35Mbps). Working in FCP has been fine.
We're doing a follow up and budget and logistics dictate that we sadly can't use 350s again (where we're going, carrying 2 Z1s for example is going to be a lot easier). We're also on a fairly steep learning curve (being relatively new to FCP, Compressor etc).
So I'm looking at options. We know that there are significant differences between say a Z1 and a 350 but from my research so far and from some relatively simple testing mixing Z1 footage (native) and 350 footage on FCP, at least editing on the timeline doesn't seem like it's going to present any problems (although thoughts on that welcome).
The issue seems to be outputting. In the first instance we'll be outputting to SD DVD. Yes, that old gem...
Searching round various forums, it seems this problem (HDV - SD) is fairly universal. Solutions seem to range from not working in Native HDV (suggestions vary on the format to ingest in - AIC etc); outputting to different formats first (eg DVCPro HD) and then to MPEG-2; outputting the timeline to tape (DV), re-importing; using some thing like a Matrox MXO to output and others...
We're aware of the shortcoming of HDV and the compressed nature of the format and our expectations, given our kit are realistic. I've even tried putting some PD150 footage on the timeline but that's just not going to cut it.
So, I've got to put a kit list together by next week and wondered if anyone had any thoughts on:
1) Mixing XDCAM and HDV on the timeline and any gotchas we should watch out for.
but more importantly
2) Any suggested routes I can look at to get some reasonable output with these two formats on the timeline - particularly HDV (don't think we'll have time to look at the Matrox route right now).
Many thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Cheers

Thanks Andy, Michael
That's good input. From an editing point of view we seem to be ok. Although, Michael, I take your point and that's a good suggestion.
The main problem is the workflow to create a decent SD DVD without the artefacts caused by compression/motion etc in HDV (and to some extent XDCAM).
Have read the prores whitepaper at
http://images.apple.com/finalcutstudio/resources/whitepapers/L342568A_ProResWP.pdf
And looked a little more into understanding GOP structures and it seems that ProRes will help in terms of editing.
The white paper seems to suggest that converting to ProRes, because it uses I frame–only encoding "Ensures consistent quality in every frame and no artifacts from complex motion. "
We'll try some tests but, does anyone know if this is true?
But it also seems that deinterlacing may solve some of the horrendous vertical edge rippling we're getting on the HDV footage when outputting to SD DVD - although if I'm honest I'm not sure how we achive that with our current setting.

Can you mix DV and HDV in the same sequence?

Hi Everyone....
I am new to the forum, and new to FCP...yes! I joined the dark side and just got a MAC.
I am trying to learn this system, and the 500 manuals it came with are about as clear as mud.....
Can I mix 16x9 DV footage with 16x9 HDV footage? And please don't tell me I am hosed!
I have some footage right now in a sequence, but it has the red line above the sequence, indicating that it needs to render.
And actually I can't even get the high def footage alone in a sequence to work...but that is another post.
Thanks in advance...
Aubry
Mac Pro Quad Xion Mac OS X (10.4.7) 2.66 GHz | 4GB ram | NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT | 1 250G &1 500G Internal Drives

I think what your asking is this....the captured clip is:
frame size: 1440x10180
compressor: hdv 1080i60
data rate 3.2 mb
pixel aspect: hd 1440/1080
I changed the sequence settings to match this and it came out all kinds of funky.
Is there another way to find out what kind of high def the clip is? I have the Sony FX1 if that matters....

Temporal compression conforming HDV 1080i60 to 23.98fps

Footage was shot on Sony EX1. Then Sony's transfer tool was used to bring it into FCP. Before import, the file says it is 59.94i (23.98p).
In final cut it says 29.97 (basically the same).
The footage needs to be changed in 23.98 fps. In cinema tools, the clip analysis says HDV 1080i60 29.97 quality:normal with temporal (what is that)?
The button to conform is grey and not active. I have tried batch conform and that leads to cinema tools creating a new source folder for "skipped clips" due to "temporal compression"
What is up?

CT doesn't convert 60i to 24p.
CT doesn't work with native HDV or MPEG2 footage.
Solution, http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm my conversion software which does a great 60i to 24p conversion even on HDV.
Graeme

Need help exporting HDV 1080i60 - please help!

OK, I'm a video editor, and I've been cutting standard-def stuff for years now. I've literally just started editing HDV material. Here's my problem:
-Imported HDV 1080i60 footage from a Sony V1U camera, via firewire.
-Edited the project natively, in HDV 1080i60 sequences, everything went smoothly. Playback looks great, everything is swell.
-Exported MPEg2 for DVD delivery, and again, everything looks great.
-When I export the sequence using either Compressor or Export to Quicktime, using the HDV 1080i60 settings, the resulting Quicktime clip cannot playback without stuttering. It's a 20 minute clip - the resulting Quicktime file is about 5GB. The video quality is fine - but I can't get it to play back without the stutter. It basically looks like I'm trying to play a video file without sufficient RAM. But I doubt that's the case. I've got 4GB of RAM, and like I said, the video plays fine in Final Cut Pro.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to deliver the final Quicktime file to my client on a hard drive, so they can playback the HD material on their own computer. Thanks in advance!

I think what is going on is that your machine doesn't have the horsepower to play the QT file back without dropping frames. Your client's machine will probably have the same problem. FCP degrades its display without dropping frames to maintain speed, QT always attempts full resolution, and drops frames to compensate.
Check the playback frame rate in the Quicktime viewer. If it is anything less than 30FPS, QT is dropping frames to maintain real time audio playback. The solution is to create a more forgiving movie.
Try 720p24, for the most benign files. These will even play on a Mac Mini without stuttering.

Import Assets Incompatible Format - Apple HDV 1080i60

Isn't HDV 1080i60 a format the DVDSP 4.1.2 can import?
I recorded an event in a Gym in HDV with my Canon HV20, uploaded into FCP5 via HDV with the sequence presets using HDV-1080i60 compression.
After adding markers and markers I rendered it, and export>quicktime settings>current settings. When I tried to drag it into DVDSP (compressor will not connect to batch after the last quicktime update so that is out until I reinstall it) DVDSP gave me the Import Assets Incompatible Format warning box.
Any insight is appreciated.
I did go back to FCP and export it as DV NTSC 58kHz and it imported fine.
I guess I just don't know what will give me the best looking DVD from HDV: Change using export via FCP or Compressor or DVDSP - or do they all use the same QT engine to convert?
Thanks for your input.

HD DVD is not blu-ray, just an FYI, so not sure if you are asking for blu-ray or not?
Anyway with FCP 7 you have the ability to create limited blu-ray discs onto regular DVD-R/+R (and also the same for HD DVD via DVD SP) that will play in HD DVD Players (if you happen to have one and burn the HD DVD flavor) or blu-ray players.
By limited (more so on blu-ray side) think of it is a simple menu that has a limited amount of room compared to a full blown blu-ray disc. In other words to put a short thing of 15-20 minutes onto a disc that will work without extra equipment, which can suffice for many things.
Or are you meaning to do something more full blown blu-ray? If the later, do a search for blu ray in the box over there -> in the DVD SP forum, lots of options and methods are discussed.
You can look at a burner like this [one from OWC|http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MRF8UEBDW8T> which includes Toast and prices are definately becoming more reasonable than they were not too long ago and the media is starting to drop.
Like most things prices will continue to go down some more, so keep that in mind as to whether it is time to buy, or just go with the limited use the system you have can currently do.

Hdv 1080i60 MOV file: all I get is audio, video is white

Greetings,
I received some hi-def video files from a guy who shot some footage for me. They are .mov files. Here's the FInder info for one of them:
Dimensions: 1440 x 1080
Codecs: HDV 1080i60, Integer (Big Endian), Timecode
Duration: 05:10
Channel count: 2
Total bit rate: 26,483
When I drag this clip into FCE, all I get is the audio. The video portion is solid white.
The clip plays correctly in VLC. How can I get it to play in FCE?
Thanks!
DM

Native HDV is not supported in FCE. The material needs to be converted to the Apple Intermediate Codec. Without knowing exactly how the material was captured using what application and platform it's impossible to say. If it was captured using Final Cut Pro, that application or Compressor will have to be used to convert the media.

Render problems on an HDV 1080i60 timeline

I'm editing a project for a friend who is on fcp 6 so I'm using my version of 5.5. Her footage is HDV 1080i so I chose the sequence preset HDV-1080i60 to match her footage. Drag any of her footage onto the timeline individually and you don't get a render line...so far so good. Create a multiclip sequence and suddenly I have a render line which makes it nearly impossible to edit. So I went searching for differences in the footage and the timeline and here is what I have.
My sequence is this
but when I choose file≥new sequence I get this:
Is this causing the render issue and why am I getting it if I'm choosing a preset sequence. Most importantly how do I fix it?

I'm not sure how to manually change the sequence setting once it's created. In fact I'm confused as to why the presets are 16 point integer but when I simply do new>sequence I get a sequence with this:
My drives are internal hard drives and I'm using three angles on the multi-clip. The odd thing is that I've never had trouble like this with this system before. It's been an amazing little workhorse. Now mind you I didn't shoot this or digitize this footage myself. It was given to me by someone who needed an edit done quickly (drat!). She's given me footage before where two of her cameras are fine in terms of the footage being shot in the same format and one of them is shot in a different format causing me issues, but this time all three cameras seem to be the same. This seems to be a sequence issue.
Can you tell me how to change the sequence once it's created?

Witch preset do i Choose "HD 1080i60" OR "HDV 1080i60

My video was shot from a SONY HDR FX1, imported as HDV 1080i60 in FCP
But When I open motion and i want to make a HDV project there is two presets,
HD 1080i60 - HDV 1080i60
Witch one is best

Use the "HDV 1080i60" one. The other one is for regular HD 1080i resolution. HDV has a slightly lower horizontal resolution than standard HD - 1440 x 1080 compared to 1920 x 1080. Since your material was shot with an HDV camera, it'll fit exactly in an HDV project.

Print to video - HDV 1080i60 to Sony HDR-HC1 camera

Like many before, am struggling with print to video of HDV material captured as HDV 1080i60 to a Sony HDR-HC1 camera. Just can't figure out what settings to use, only get the darn blue screen. Have tried several settings, but no success. Does anyone know the trick? Thanks!

Tim Kuhlman-
Have you tested the camera with non-HDV just to make sure the camera works?
Luck-
-DaddyPaycheck

How can I get GV and HDV files imported to Premier Elements 13. I know now that they are not supported. But does it exist ways to get them. I use camera HDR-HS7E?

How can I get GV and HDV files imported to Premier Elements 13. I know now that they are not supported. But does it exist ways to get them. I use camera HDR-HS7E?

skjeggi
What is this HDR-HS7E - a miniDV camcorder that lets you do DV and HDV capture firewire?
True, the DV and HDV capture firewire into the Premiere Elements 13 Capture window is gone. But, have you
looked at the workaround suggested by PRE_help in this forum. The workaround is found in the following
Adobe document....
http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/kb/removed-features-formats-elements.html
When your schedule permits, please let us know if that worked for you.
Thank you.
ATR

Only DV and HDV in Capture Format list!

I've
watched some of the tutorials showing a LONG list of available capture formats, when set
ting up a project- Why does my purchased
DL only show DV and HDV as my only two choices?

Why doesn't this capture list show up when setting up a project?
Are you reading what we're writing here? The marketing literature you're referring to makes a canonical mistake in its reference to "capturing" formats like RED, Sony XDCAM, XDCAM EX, XDCAM HD, Panasonic P2, or AVCHD. Those are all tapeless formats that are imported or ingested, NOT captured. Therefore, the capture format doesn't make one bit of difference when editing those formats. Just import the files and be done with it.
Definitely read the whole help file, but focus particularly on this section: Importing, transferring, capturing, and digitizing

HDV 1080i60: Output high quality video that will work on other computers?

Hi,
I just made a quicktime movie (not conversion) of my HDV 1080i60 video project, but it will not play on other computers...
My question:
What is the best workflow for outputting a HQ HDV movie, from FCP6, that will play on other computers/platforms?
Please help! On a deadline.

Thanks Studio!!!
I will use H.264.
I also discovered that copying the AppleHDVCodec.component (from my HD >> Library >> Quicktime folder) to the other Mac, will allow me to play the video too... But optimally, I would like to not worry about codecs.
Anyway, many many many thanks Studio! You rock!
Have a great night.
Cheers,
Micky

DVCPRO HD 720pN24 and HDV 1080i60

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