DVCProHD frame rate converter strips out audio?

Hi,
We are doing a capture of DVCProHD material from DVCProHD tape. They are all coming in as DVCProHD 59.94 with 23.98 flag. Unfortunately when we captured, we captured everything as DVCProHD 59.94 with no pull down.
We are hoping to remove the duplicate frames after the fact, and tried using the DVCProHD frame rate converter tool in FCP. However, upon reading and re-writing the file, we find that FCP strips out all the audio of the original file.
I am wondering if there is a way to remove the duplicated frames and at the same time maintain the audio tracks on the new 23.98 file.
Thanks!
Michael
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make a copy of your captured media and "conform" it in cinema tools. this will keep the audio but is destructive to the file thus you'll want to work from a copy in case you mess up. the frame rate convertor used to be used for variable speeds ie 48 over 24 for half speed thus thee audio would never sync and thus the FRC doe not process audio

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