DVCPROHD to SD - Interlace and Banding
I have searched the forums for days regarding this issue and haven't come up with a complete answer.
I am mastering a series of commercials shot on a Panasonic DVCPROHD camera at 720p 59.94. The final output has been on a SD Beta Tape.
I am editing all these spots in a 720p HD 59.94 timeline and use an AJA Kona LHe card for letterbox output to my beta deck with great looking results. However, every fine line in the footage produces horrible looking banding and buzzing when the camera pans or tilts. I have tried all the tricks - flicker filter, adding a second layer with overlay and adding guassian blur... you name it.
I am convinced that the solution is in the settings. Maybe field order? Maybe going from progressive to interlaced yields crappy results all the time. I don't understand how all of these TV shows and spots shot on HD and mastered to SD look OK.
What has everyone here been doing in this situation?
A couple of things might be worth trying. Try dropping your sequence into a SD sequence and render it and see how that outputs. Or export a selfcontained qt with sequence settings and use compressor to downconvert.
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Not sure these embedded images will work.
8% zoomed - see all the strange banding and triangular artifacts
<a href="http://imgur.com/izrGuia"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/izrGuia.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
Flattened view - all smooth:
<a href="http://imgur.com/Pn35IAK"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Pn35IAK.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
50% zoom, still there:
<a href="http://imgur.com/Z207hFd"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/Z207hFd.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
100% artifacts disappear:
<a href="http://imgur.com/6aGOz0V"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/6aGOz0V.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
100% 16-bit layered
<a href="http://imgur.com/0XJfe5e"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/0XJfe5e.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
and finally 8-bit layered converted from 16-bit with dither.
<a href="http://imgur.com/PSxiu43"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/PSxiu43.png" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>
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AE in 32 bits mode, masks and banding
hi, im doing an AE CS4 project in 32 bits, i create a mask and with all levels of feathering and expansion i can see banding so clearly, i thought 32 bits would solve the banding issues, i see this with all examples, say that i put a black solid over a clip and i mask it with an oval to create a vignete, i use feathering and expansion where necessary, but still in 32 bits mode i can see clearly banding, of course with the add grain filter i can get rid of it, but i add also noise; am i doing something wrong, is it possible that in 32 bits mode banding still happens? there is non way to avoid it?
thank u so much for any help
javreally this seems now to be a generic issue of after effects, photoshop etc, lets write the facts
1) im testing with two computers, a good laptop and a good desktop, both new , powerful, both with NVIDIA graphic cards which i guess are supposed to be good graphic cards
2) im using the latest software, photoshop CS4 and AE CS4
3) im trying all this in 32 bits in both and in the other modes later also
4) i am switching off opengl as for the suggestions i receive, and also im seeing all at full resolution
so given all that written above, now we go to photoshop, create a new file say 1920x1080, take a greyscale gradient with the gradient tool and put it on a new layer,
and there it is, the banding! ))
so either there is something really wrong in my setup, or this is a generic problem
i thought it could be my video hardware, but how could this be, both my control panel settings of both computers are set to highest color depth 32 bits, and both have NVIDIA graphic cards, and both are a year old or the desktop a month old, i mean it cannot get much more recent, certainly its not the best hardware around thats for sure, but really i think it should be enough to display an smooth gradient i would hope
i have known about the technique to use Add Noise for a long time to get rid of banding but i didnt remember that banding would happen so easily in a simple gradient or in a simple mask even at 32 bits, this is what puzzles me, i thought the whole point of 32 bits is that these things like this type of banding wouldnt happen
thank u for any help
by the way ,searching around online i have seen so many threads of people complaining about banding,
is Adobe addressing somewhere what seems to be a generic concern about Banding, maybe with a nice article explaining the reasons, causes, and solutions for banding that u may still get in 32 bits etc? that would be very nice
thank u again
jav
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