DVD drive with faster IDE

hi all,
thanks Jeff and Grantt my Hard Drive corruption was resolved, now I´ve got another question...I read, that the CDdrive on my G3 beige use an ata16 connection, can I install it on the ata33 of the motherboard?
do I need to use a special cable?
thanks again.
PD. where I can read bout the conections of this motherboard? and understand the bootlenecks it have? thanks

The two IDE/ATA connections on the Beige g3 motherboard each operate at 16.7 MB/sec. In the rev 2 and 3, each can support Master and Slave devices. It is not a good idea to mix faster (Hard drive) devices with slower (CD/DVD) devices on the same cable, because the faster devices will be slowed down to the speed of the slower devices.
Although we like to think of CD and DVD readers and writers as Fast (especially after what we paid for them) they are not fast compared to Hard Drives, and putting them on a faster bus does not do much for their speed.
The Blue & White G3 has one PCI slot that operates faster than the others. It is intended for the graphics card. Some users have suggested putting your Hard Drive Controller card in this slot. This does not make sense for consumer Hard Drives, because consumer Hard Drives cannot transfer data fast enough to use the extra bandwidth. It only makes sense when using absolute top-of-the line drives, such as 15,000 RPM or faster Hard Drives.

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