DVD Lip-Sync issues on HDTV playback

Hi, was looking for info regarding lip-sync issues after burning a DVD in DVDSP. Playback on a monitor is grand, but playback on two HDTVs have shown the entire DVD, all tracks to be out of Sync by the same time. Is this anything to do with Progressive/interlaced fields? I know that HDTV and AV systems can have issues with the processing of Progressive streams and there can be a delay with the Video which can be adjusted in their system settings but i can't expect 1000+ people to all change their settings to accommodate my DVD! lol
I shot on DSLR 25P, edited in Premiere in 25P, exported then i imported into Compressor and dropped the DVD: Best Quality 90min preset on it (MPEG-2 Video, 720 x 576 (1,048 x 576), Dolby Digital Pro 2.0 at 192kps). Then imported them into DVDSP and burned the DVD. I can't see in the preferences or anywhere in DVDSP whether this is a Progressive or Interlaced project so i don't know what my final output is onto DVD. Perhaps it just follows what is imported as an asset and im assuming at the moment to change that i have to change Progressive to Interlaced somewhere ealier in the workflow.
Because I shot on DSLR 25P, edited in 25P i exported, after much trial and error, the files from Premiere as : Match Source HI-Bitrate:
H.264 (as source)
25P AVC Coding,
1,920 x 1,080 AAC,
Square Pixels (1.0)
VBR 2 Pass
48000 Hz, Stereo (L R),
6.32 Mbit/s
(For some reason when i tried to use Adobe Media Encoder for batch exporting nothing happened after it opened, so i chose all my settings from Premiere export and did all the files individually).
So just to re-cap, why am i getting Lip Sync issues when burned to DVD and played back on an HDTV? and how can i correct this issue?
Kind regards,
Sai Kelly
For anyone interested in the background:
The reason i chose the above settings was because I was having severe issues in quality of the .M2V file for the green screen sequences during interviews, particularly with people's hair when i chose to export from Premiere or Media Encoder with any kind of DVD settings. I spent a few days trying different types of exporting, methods and presets. This was the best version and i stopped once i acheived this result. Might have been simpler to continue to try a 720p version of the above before importing to Compressor. Here is the issue, you can see the 'snowy' hair problem:
some of the different settings i tried:
Ignore 'Quality 50' below, i changed it to 80 or 100 after the screenshot and before i clicked Export.
The "Match Source HI-Bitrate" gave me the best results (blue background re-added in After Effects):
Kind regards,
Sai Kelly

Hi Ann,
Thank you for your opinion, though i disagree.
As i said above I did try exporting directly from Premiere as Mpeg2 in many versions when i was attempting to solve the issue by changing the Bit Rate. But to no avail. The above screen shots were attempts to export a 'highest quality option' for re-encoding with a software  designed specifically to compress. I don't like re-encoding as much as anyone else, but this was the only option left as Media Encoder didn't help and without beginning again and using Encore. The same would have had to happen with Encore anyway as there appears to be no Dynamic Link in Premiere Pro CC to Encore as there wasn't yet a version of Encore CC.....just checking there....After Effects and Premiere have new updates just released Media Encoder CC 7.1 which i will check out but still nothing from Encore.
I don't think you can help me with this particular issue, Ann and i'd like to hear from some other voices. Unless you have any thoughts or suggestions that will help with the Lip-Sync issue.
Thanks again,
Sai

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