DVD size capped at 3.7GB??

I have two quicktime files, both created by running my 8mm-camcorder through my DV camcorder for capture:
File A: 1h23min, 12.85GB
File B: 1h44min, 17.81GB (same as File A + 21min footage)
I import each into separate iDVD projects with the same theme and create separate DVD images. My preferences are set on "Best Quality." I end up with:
File A: 3.72GB
File B: 3.74GB
20 megabytes difference for 5GB more footage??? I have gone over both images and verified that everything is present in both of them. I've gone over both visually with the zoom at 100% and on fullscreen and I can't visually tell any difference. I would take screenshots and zoom way in if I could, but the stupid DVD player disables screen shots.
I'm puzzled.
On a side-note, I'd really like to get something a bit more advanced than iDVD, so I could pick my compression level, but I'm not willing to shell out $500 for DVD Builder just for home videos. IS there anything between the two?

Hello,
The short answer is that iDVD used a lower average bit-rate for the second sequence. The higher the bit-rate the larger the file size and vice versa. iDVD will use a VBR (variable bit-rate) for sequences over 60 minutes.
On a side note you have something like BitVice:
http://www.innobits.se/
For encoding. Then you would need something like Toast to burn.
Mike

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in FCE: don't 'manually' convert into something by choosing 'Export/Quicktime Conversion', just 'Export/Quicktime Movie' - drag that into iDVD.
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Paragraphs help the reader, just saying.
What are you actually trying to do? Why do you need "DVD size" folders if you're creatng an Archive on an external hard drive?
Also, I understand burning folders instead of individual photos or albums gives you more space on a DVD.
It makes no difference at all.
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HD? Another HD? You use HD there in a way that makes no sense. What's the point of 'DVD size'?
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Does this have any relation to the previous questions? You know you can delete from iPhoto, right?
You're somewhat confused and you need to
1. Decide what exactly you want to do
2. Then go about it.
If I understand you correctly - and there's no guarantee that I do - the easiest thing is to bring all your Photos into iPhoto and do everything from there.
You can have an archive on an external disk, you can sort and select and edit with or via iPhoto
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