DVD SP markers or Chapter Markers?

Hi
What's the difference between DVD SP markers and Chapter Markers in the menu to do a QT export from FCP 6? I want to make a sel-contained movie from my seq to take to Compressor with chapter markers - so which do I choose, DV SP markers or Chapter Markers?
Thanks
K

Using DVD-SP Markers will include all chapter markers and also any compression markers you might have set. Chapter Markers only includes the actual chapter markers.
-DH

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Jeremy,
Assuming you are talking about replicating markers from clips to timeline (or vice versa), and you've made a lot of markers, here's a tip:
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+(Make the Timeline the active window (cmd)(3) and place the playhead to the left of the first marker to transfer.)+
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Does anyone know what is the difference between chapter markers and dvd studio pro markers? I can not find anywhere on Google. Also in the tutorials I have seen, suggesting DVD Studio Pro markers, but it did not mention the chapter markers.
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"Adding Chapter and Compression Markers to Your Sequence
Once you have your edited sequence or program finished, you can add markers to the sequence for use on DVD. Markers are reference points you can place within clips or sequences that identify specific frames. There are two kinds of markers you can add that directly relate to authoring a DVD—chapter markers and compression markers.
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Final Cut Express & Final Cut Pro: How to export a movie with chapter markers for iDVD
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42973
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I've searched and found a lot of posts, but no solution that works for me.
I've followed this: http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/compression_chapter_markersstone.html and it doesn't help.
I've exported every way possible from FCP, and when I bring the file (or export directly) into Compressor, I can see the markers.
When I encode in Compressor, and bring it into DVD Studio Pro, there are no Chapter Markers anywhere. I had even made sure to check the boxes regarding DVD Studio Pro and Chapter Markers.
What am I missing?
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to export the Chapter Markers from FCP and import it into DVD Studio Pro?
Any help would be appreciated...

Of course I get it working right after I posted this...
Here's the solution so others can benefit:
Exporting the QT movie with "Chapter Markers" instead of anything else. You'd think that a setting specifically for "DVD Studio Pro" would work, but it doesn't. "All Markers" won't work either. Since the word "all" doesn't mean "all," it's all very confusing.
Once in Compressor, you want to see your markers show up purple instead of green. Importing the compressed file immediately imported the chapter markers.
Recap:
1. In FCP, create markers, open them and designate them as Chapter Markers.
2. Export to Compressor or QT movie, self contained not necessary, using ONLY the "Chapter Markers" setting.
3. Encode in Compressor, and bring into DVD Studio Pro.
More details are in the other posts and links, and here's another good one:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/exporting_markers_fromfcp.html
Silal - yes, I tried selecting the clip and using "import embedded markers," but I apparently would needed a text file with that data already prepared in order to do that. I tried searching for a way to export only a chapter marker list, but I haven't found a way to do that. It would have saved me from re-encoding everything twice if I had found a way. (I would have made one manually if I didn't have almost 90 Chapters!) ...and I knew the markers needed to be in the timeline and not in the clips, but thanks for checking.
My 2 Cents:
I don't see any reason why this can't be greatly simplified. With the numbers of other users having the same confusion as I did, Apple should address this. Imagine this: You simply create a marker in FCP, and export with an option that automatically designates them all as chapter markers, and then it just works the first time. Having an option to export a chapter marker text file for importing over previously encoded files would be nice, too.

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Welcome to the Boards
When you open the movie in QuickTime are you seeing the markers? Have you tired using Export -> Chapter Markers (not DVD SP Markers?)
Take a look here shows selection of Chapter Markers on export
http://dvdstepbystep.com/fasttrackover.php
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