DVD SP Smooth Audio Menu Loop

This is in regard to this thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=802314
So, i am wondering why a normal DVD player cannot pre buffer the audio stream to make a tightly looped audio stream with no hiccup (video stream as well for that matter)? We can do it in games (i.e. xbox 360, ps2, etc.), why not consumer authored DVDs? Could the DVD player not pre load some kind of buffer upon being turned on? There has to be a way.. just seems like such a necessary piece of polish.
Mac OS X (10.4.9)

DVD and game design are 2 different platforms and technologies. DVDs are not very robust by today's standards - remember the spec was created 17-20 years ago! However with some good design practices you can avoid those annoying audio hiccups. Try lowering your audio to silence at the end of the menu then bring it back up at the beginning of the next for example.
The same goes for video. Matching frames when the laser must go back to the beginning of a Main Menu or to a transition is key. Keeping motion at a minimum on your menus can also make transition appear smoother to the viewer. With some good designing the jump can be minimal.
The new HD specs on disc have you covered though - thier design is comparable to game design.
E

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