Dvds made with encore cs5 not using full 4.65gb as cs4 did

The majority of my video work consists of burning DVDs of event videos that are longer than two hours. I edit the video, dynamic link over to Premiere, add a second time line with a 10 second logo video and render the DVD. And since the begining of time with CS3, these DVD images always come out to be 4.65/4.66 gb (according to OS X). Now, with CS5, changing absolutely nothing--exact same workflow--Encore is only using 4.21 gb of space. The disc info section of the build pane lists around 450mb of free space (on the particular project I'm looking at right now).
This is a significant amount of wasted space and is unacceptable. Why is this happening?

I was finally able to talk to someone from Adobe and they tell me that this is the expected behavior, that supposedly not all DVDs are manufactured at the correct size and this extra space is to prevent problems. Should that even be true (aren't DVD's a standard?? If it says there's 4.7gb on it doesn't than mean there's 4.7gb??) this is a STUPID decision for the following reasons:
* It doesn't show this 500mb extra space until after you render your items. Before that time, it shows all the disc space being used--1 or 2 megs free and no more
* If this is necessary then make the default disc image size 4.2gb and add it to the drop-down list of sizes. Then I can pick 4.7 if I want it.
* It doesn't even always leave 500mb. Sometimes, completely unexplicably--I'd say 10% of the time, it uses the full amount of space...like it's done since Encore v1.0. So if I manually change the disc size to 5.2 in order to get the right size image, I sometimes find that nope, Encore isn't drunk today, and I now have a 5.2gb disc image and have to start over.
It seems like every time I update my software w/ the promise of things speeding up my workflow (and other things in CS5 have), something like this pops up to F it all up and I resign myself to thinking well, I guess Adobe will fix this one day...and call it CS6 and charge me another $700 for it.

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    It turns out that the problem had to do with network accounts, even though it was not clear at first.  Redirecting the program to the local machine's cache with a network home redirector script fixed the issue.  Thanks anyway.

  • DVD burned with Encore on MacPro will not play in all players

    I burned a project with Encore last week using my MacPro's stock DVD burner. I was using Memorex DVD+R disks which I've had mostly success with in the past. I tried the final DVD in 3 players before I considered it the final product, and it worked in all 3...1 high end player and 2 no-names. I went to present the project at a screening the other night and their Sony player would not read the disk (but did read everyone else's)! Luckily I had access to another player, so it wasn't a complete embarrassment, but still unnerving considering I have to make about 60 DVDs next month for a client. Any idea what could have caused this?

    The difference between + and - these days should be zero. However, if one format gives you trouble, always try the other.
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  • DVDs burned with Encore CS6 won't play in PC/MAC standard player

    Wondering what is going on with an issue on Encore CS6 (W8), as it will burn DVDs that work with PowerDVD but not with OS X's default media player or Windows Media Player
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    Welcome to the discussions.
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    What to we use or do to create DVD videos? Encore is not in the Creative Cloud. Premier Pro does not seem to work for this and I don't know where to go to accomplish this task. I have been looking for hours.

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    As well as the below, right click the Encore icon and select Run as Administrator... which fixes several "odd" problems
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    Hello,
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    Regards,
    Christian
    Message was edited by:
            Christian Breitenbach

    Hi Christian,
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    Vijay

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    pezley wrote:
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    Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
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