DVDSP prefs: 1440 or 1920?

Hi,
I shot a project using a couple of Canon XHA1's... I built my project using FCP6 and ended-up exporting a self-contained final version from FCP as HDV 1080i 60 QT movie.
I am currently using Compressor to transcode/convert that final video as HD DVD: H.264 60 Minutes.
My questions:
1. In DVDSP, in the preferences, should I choose 1440x1080i or 1920x1080i under "General" >> "HD DVD Menus, Tracks, and Slideshows"?
2. General question about resolutions: When I view the info on my HDV movie, via Quicktime, under "Format", why does it say "... 1440x1080 (1888x1062) ..."? I thought 1440x1080 footage expanded to 1920x1080 when viewing on a computer... why is it a bit smaller (i.e: 1888x1062)?
Many thanks for any help you can give me. I really appreciate your time.
Cheers,
Micky
Message was edited by: mhulse

I saved my old HV20 (HDV) videos as 1920x1080 simply to ensure simplicity and ease of playback plus compatibility with subsequent 1920x1080 footage.
1440x1080 video contains a flag that should tell the playback application to resize it to 16:9 but on occasions I have found that this is not recognised, so making it 1920x1080 will prevent that problem recurring.
Assuming you have the space, keeping both versions is the ideal . . . together with the original tapes.

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can someone help me comprehend this....i don't know what documentation can explain this seemingly foolish problem......
OBVIOUSLY MY HD IS 1920 X 1080, HOWEVER MY FINALCUT SETTINGS WINDOW SAYS OTHERWISE...TO FURTHER COMPLICATE THE ISSUE I WANT TO SHRINK IT 720 X 405
LOGIC WOULD IMPLY THAT HE EXPORT QUICKTIME VIDEO CONVERSION WOULD DO THIS, HOWEVER EVERY SETTING IN THAT WINDOW I CHOOSE HAS RENDERED SQUISHED OR CROPPED VIDEOS
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oh, and please turn off the ALL CAPS thing. It is difficult to read and it the internet equivilent of shouting - not very reasonable if you want a response. While you're at it, go ahead and spell out words. This isn't text messaging.
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