[DVDSP3] Bitrate too high ??? what can i do more ?

Hello,
i have a problem with a DVD . Total 3,9 GB, all tracks are M2V (exported from Premiere), all audio files are AC3... and i still got a bitrate too high ..
What can i do ?? the poorest bitrate is still too high .....

ok. i have tried with replacing all the video files .. new export from the original AVI files;
My parameters (Compressor) are : (in french sorry)
Nom : Export M2V PAL
Description : Casino (Pas de son)
Extension de fichier : m2v
Encodeur vidéo
Format : M2V
Largeur : 720
Hauteur : 576
Proportions des pixels : 0.938
Rognage : Aucun
Fréquence d’images : 25
Proportions : 4:3
Priorité de trame : détection automatique
Taux de transfert de données moyen : 5 (Mbps)
VBR 2 passes activé
Taux maximum de transfert de données : 8 (Mbps)
Estimation d’animation optimale
Fermé Taille GOP : 12, Structure : IBBP
Méta-données DVD Studio Pro activées
Still the same problem

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Well if you're using PCM audio (.aif) you've got no chance with a bitrate that high. PCM audio takes up 1.536Mbps of your total bandwidth. So at 9 you are way over already!
Even if you use DD AC-3 you pretty much have no chance too cause many encoders will spike over the max for VBR or target with CBR and at the bitrate you are leaving no headroom,
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http://dvdstepbystep.com/faqs_7.php
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Message was edited by: ErinSayHi

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Did you solve your problem? if yes, what did you do?
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