Dynamic events miss some events

I use an event structure in LabVIEW 7.1.1 that's driven by dynamic events. Sometime, the structure misses 10% of events happened on a control. Beside that, the structure works well. Initialization of the event register is made by a constant and unregistered at the end of the VI. Anybody has expected that kind of problem?
Thanks
Eric

Can you post an example or does this only happen in a certain VI?
How do you know that the event structure is missing 10% of the events?
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Dynamic Event (Notifier) Missed

In my application, I have a notifier registered as a "user event". There are three event structures, each within a while loop; in each event structure this notifier event is registered as "dynamic event". In two structures, the timeout is set to "-1" (infinite). In the third stcructure, the timeout is set to 5 ms; the timeout case takes 500 ms to complete (e.g. using "Wait ms"). An additional event structure fires this notifier event.
What happens is that the two structures with infinite timeout catch this event (I think), but the structure with a short timeout and long-executing timeout case misses it. If I make the timeout long and the timeout case execute fast, this structure also catches the event. It looks like during the execution of the timeout case the event is unregistered.
An example VI is attached.
Is it a bug or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Sergey Liberman
Message Edited by Cepera on 02-12-2010 10:29 PM
Solved!
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You are right of course. I forgot that events do not broadcast. A corrected VI is attached. It works fine now. Thanks!
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Continous dynamic event loss

Hello,
we are experiencing a continous dynamic event loss.
The test-main-VI is Button Menue 15.vi, all received and generated counts should be the same.
Button Menue 14.vi is included as a "not really doing some real work" example, an seems to be running flawlessly also on the customer machine. But if we replace the sleep with some larger loops then we easily can see a big difference.
On the customer machine the continous loss can be seen quite easily, here we have to run about 12000 cycles so see a small difference,
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You splitted the Event Registration refnum:
This is a no-no, have a look at this post (and the rest of the thread)
In order to solve your problem you should NOT share the Event Registration Refnum in the sub-vi but create a new one:
If I run that code I have no problem and seeing no missed events.
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Resetting a variable in an event structure (dynamic event)

I'm working on moving an event structure into a sub VI. This means I have to register dynamic events.
The event structure is handling some button clicks. The state of the button (mechanical action = latch when released) resets itself automatically as long as the variable is placed within the value change case. Leaving the button in this case is not possible when the event structure is put in a sub VI and the variable is located in the parent VI. How do I make sure the button unlatches after clicking on it? I have attached an example where all the code is in one VI (the local variable must be moved outside the event structure in order for it to be moved into a sub VI). Any ideas?
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Race conditions are the primary reason not to do that. But since your treating your variable as a latch, I doubt your using the value you read from it anywhere, and in that case it can't create a race condition. There's also the possibility that the control's reference could become invalid. But since this is a sub VI of the control's VI that can't happen (even if it could you can check the error out of the value property node to see when it happens and deal with it).
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Are you ever required to wire the dynamic event terminals through an event case?

I remember some time ago, I ran into an issue while using an event case where my program was not functioning properly until, on a whim, I wired the dynamic event through that event case... now the reason I'm asking this in a general sense is because I don't remember what particular code I had this issue with and I could have been failing to update a shift register or something.
In code I'm currently writing, I'm simply passing the dynamic event wire in a shift reg. I was just wondering if there's any difference between wiring it through the event cases or simply passing it to the output shift register (without passing through the event cases)...
any info appreciated!
Thx
-pat

You do not have to wire it through. You don't need a shift register for references since the value will be the same for each iteration. In fact using a shift register is probably what caused issues. You probably updated it with the default value somewhere.
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Just open the front panels for all the vis before running the GUI vi.
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I can't tell you how to solve you problems - without code this is always quite tricky.
But in case you want to log messages to a log file, have a look at this thread
http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=172117&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
where I posted a logging-library.
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1043 error when trying to use dynamic events on RT system

Hello,
I am trying to define some dynamic events as specified it the LabView help for RT targets. But when trying to run the vi I get the 1043 error. What am I doing wrong?
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Dear Przemek,
to fully understand you problem and to be able to help you, I will have to ask you a few questions:
What version of LabVIEW are you using?
What RT target are you using?
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Are you creating an executable? If yes, this document could be helpful:
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Dynamic event registration tutorial

Hi All,
I wanted to learn about the Dynamic Event registration ... i have tried to donwload so many examples and try to undertsand why thery r using this...??
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Solved!
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Can you post that vi? I am unable to drag and drop it because I have LV2010.
tst wrote:
Static events are fully configured at edit time. They're the ones you know.
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I am still finding it hard to understand. I get the configured part. THat's coz you have to set up the event structure. What I don't understand is how exactly it becomes dynamic? We still add event cases just like static events. My mind is hurting so much thinking about this
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Dynamic event registration - FP not in memory ?

Hello,
I have problem that I don't understand tith dynamic event registration.
In my app I have many threads that are initialised when app starts and I switch between them using subpanel.
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Well your image is confusing because you can't run without wiring that reference. But if you did do that then the error comes from the fact that your VI doesn't have a front panel that is open when you register for it. So that control reference doesn't really exists. I mean it exists but you can't reference a control that hasn't been opened.
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Dynamic event multiple loops

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Thanks to both of you. I found the answer to my question in the second posted link. "the common, correct use case is to have one Event structure per dynamic event registration". I tested this out with the previous attachment by registering the User Event refnum from the ESTOP functional global to another Event Registration node. I then ran this refnum to the top loop. (instread of the top loop sharing the registration refnum with the middle loop). Now I can put a delay of 2000+ ms and not even miss an event. cooool. This will probably NOT be my final solution but its good to know in the future.
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RT: Dynamic Event possible without polling?

RT Targets only support dynamic events as seen in this demo:
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"Using Shared Variable Events on Real-Time Targets": http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/websearch/3AE325EECD9A17AD862570BA00625088?OpenDocument
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2012 Dynamic Event Registration Array of Controls

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Solved!
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I've got the bug too -- it appears this bug is present when arrays of control refs are connected to the ConPane. Link to cross-post on LAVA about the original problem. As Patrick@Vision mentions above, one workaround is to ensure that the array of control refs is no longer on the ConPane by collapsing the Register for Events node onto the caller.
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