E-recruimtment: Question about landscape standalone with use of MSS view

Hi ,
Has anyone already done an implementation of E-recruitment with the use of MSS view ?
Or have you reliable information about the combination landscape - manager view ?
For security reasons the choice for the landscape standalone is the best.
But in documentation of SAP we have read that the Manager view isn't possible in a standalone landscape:
ERP installation (Recruiting as integral part of the ERP solution)
- Required for MSS Manager Role integration and ESS integration
Kind Regards
Pascale

Hello Pascale,
perhaps we mixed up some things according to the manager involvment. There are 2 different solutions.
There is the "internal" e-recruiting solution for manager involvement. This is delivered in 2 separate roles requester and decision maker but usually joined to one manager or hiring department view / startpage.
There is an bsp application for requesting requisitions. The manager can create them, fill in the data he knows and then he sends it to his hr clerk respondible for his requests who adds all stuff missing, checks if it's ok with budget / headcount and then publishes it in the jobborads. In Addition there is an application which provides the mangager with a list of candidates he has to check and fill a questionaire for e.g. to decide if he wants the candate for an interview.
Both applications are parts of the e-recruiting delivery. They have nothing to do with the MSS. They are accessed via a startpage for the amnager and run on the e-recruiting server.
On the other hand there is nearly the same functionality delivered as part of the MSS. The result is nearly the same just the user interface differs. The requisition request is not done in an bsp application but an Adobe Interactive Form (which requires an ADS Server). The intention of this is to rebuild you old paper requisition request in an interactive form and map the data to the e-recruiting requisition. So you train your managers to use a web version of the old form instad of using e-recruiting. Of course if you already use other mss functions everything will be in the same fancy frontend and you do not need to log in twice if you have no SSO. As far as I heard the ADS license alone costs 50k and then youhave the rollout cost and licence cost for the MSS. You have to decide if it is worth it.
The candidate list for questionairs to fill is also available in the MSS scenario.
The MSS solution requires e-recruiting 600 and an hr core system on ECC6.0 (ERP2005) with the newest enhancement package. The MSS is installed and processed on the hr core server no matter if you use an integrated or a standalone installation for e-recruiting.
Best Regards
Roman Weise

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    7. Yes.
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