E520 Overheating 60 degrees idle 90 degrees under load

Hello all, I have had my edge E520 for quite a few years and now I believe that it may be thermal throttling games and applications etc.
At idle it runs at around 50-60 degrees Idle, and under load it can reach anywhere upto 93-4 degrees Celcius.
New compound has been applied bi-annually on this latop for it's whole lifetime. Is the heatsink no longer doing it's job? It's dust free. The fan seems to working fine on the heatsink, so I don't know where else to look at.
Cheers, Matt.

Well you should not count those in the power supply. Typically to balance you would want to have the same volume of air coming in as is going out. So if the 120's are both the same and both 80's are the same then you would get better airflow having an 80 and a 120 on intake and then repeat on the outtake side. Ideally then if you have a fan controller you would want both 80's chained ton one control and both 120's chained to another. That way when you controil fan speeds you will stay balanced. Note though you need a good fan controller to do this and you will have to check ratings to see if you can tie the fans together without overloading the controller.

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