Early 2008 Mac Pro CPU Upgrade
About 6 months ago, I purchased a early 2008 MacPro with a single quad-core 2.8 ghz CPU. Is it possible to add the second processor to this machine?
Yes it is possible, but most likely not financially viable.
You will void your warranty and of the more difficult items to track down will be the heat sink for the CPU! Mind you, finding a 2.8Ghz CPU will be difficult on it's own. But in essence, if you have some cash to blow and are willing to get your hands full of thermal paste, then yes, have a go!
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/72/
and
http://www.o0o.it/pro/
Remember, on your head be it!
-Jacques
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Early 2009 Mac Pro CPU upgrade
Hello all
I just purchased a 2009 2.66 quad core Mac Pro. I am wondering if the CPU is upgradable. Since the new CPU sits on a slide out tray and shares the same CPU socket as the 8 core CPUs. Can a user upgrade the CPU later? Say if I want to upgrade my 3500 2.66Ghz CPU to 5500 2.9Ghz CPU?As a mac pro enthusiast this is something I have been trying to figure out as well. With this insanely high premium price on a new mid to top end model vs what it was a year ago I am curious if it would be doable to buy an oct-core 2.26 (or whatever the low end oct is) and upgrade to two nehalem processors myself at a later point. I work on computers inside and out for a living so replacing the CPU doesn't scare me. I just want to know what the part is, if its required to socket a Xeon in each slot or could it be done with just two Nehalem processors. Upgrading the CPU is very doable in a mac mini or a mac pro, its about what you have to socket into the slot. If anyone knows if the mac pro's i7 slot supports non-xeon processors that would be all the info I need.
Thanks
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What upgrade graphic card do i need for a early 2008 mac pro
I have a early 2008 Mac Pro. ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256 MB is what i have now. What is a good upgrade graphic card to get.
The GTX 780 6GB runs fine on the dual PCIe internal power cables -- as does the GTX 680 and Radeon HD 7950. The same can't be said of the GTX TITAN or GTX 780 Ti or Radeon R9 280X -- all of which require an auxiliary power feed to avoid a nasty power down of your tower at the worst moment when too much wattage is demanded of the Mac Pro's factory power supply.
Did I mention that the GTX 780 with 6GB of GDDR5 matches the 6GB of GDDR5 in the TITAN?
The one fallacy to my 'sweet spot' award has to do with OpenCL. In case you hadn't noticed, the AMD Radeon GPUs smoked the NVIDIA GeForce GPUs running Photoshop's OpenCL accelerated Iris Blur filter and rendering LuxMark's OpenCL accelerated Room scene.
- http://www.barefeats.com
So depends on budget, whether you want a PC card for less but no "early EFI boot screen" prior to drivers loading, and what apps and needs you have.
The one thing for sure is that 2600XT should have been retired ages ago and even more so with 10.8.3 and above, it could be trouble or just... PITA/POS. -
I have an early 2008 Mac Pro, 8 gb ram with a Dell 27” display and a 42” LG TV. I am thinking about upgrading the stock ATI Radeon 2600 graphics card for better resolution, preferring 2 dvi outputs or 1 dvi and 1 vga vs 1 dvi and a mini. I don't do a lot of Final Cut Pro, gaming, etc. I am interested in best value for the graphics card.
Does anyone have any suggestions on the best graphics card for these larger displays for the best value?
Thanks,
KevinI recommend you install nothing older than the Apple-firware 5770, about US$250.
RE: Mac Pro Replacement Graphics cards
1) Apple brand cards,
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
3) "Mac Edition" cards ...
... show all the screens, including Boot up screens, Safe Mode, Installer, Recovery, debug screens, and Alt/Option boot screens. At this writing, these choices include:
1) Apple brand cards:
• Apple-firmware 5770, about US$250** works near full speed in every model Mac Pro, Drivers in 10.6.5
• Apple-firmware 5870, about US$450
2) "sold in the Apple store" cards
• NVIDIA Quadro 4000, about US$1200
• NVIDIA Quadro 5000, about US$2500
3) "Mac Edition" cards -- REQUIRE 10.8.3 or later:
• SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 MAC Edition, about US$480** Vendor recommends Mac Pro 4,1
• EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, about US$600
The cards above require no more than the provided two 6-pin aux power connectors provided in the Mac Pro through 2012 model. Aux cables may not be provided for third-party cards, but are readily available.
If you are Meet ALL of these:
• running 10.8.3 or later AND
• don't care about "no boot screens" etc AND
• can re-wire or otherwise "work out" the power cabling, THEN:
You can use many more cards, even most "PC-only cards" -
I work in animation, I have a Early 2008 mac pro. I am a motion graphics artist, I currently have a 2gb graphics card in the system but only 10gb of ram. Will I only see the best performance if I also max out the computer memory to 32gb of ram??
8 DIMMs are suppose to improve memory bandwidth by 15%+
SSD for system and for scratch, for photo libraries also helps - you have to watch for SSD PCIe controllers though and your free 16x slot for those.
Putting the system on SSD helps, and with 500GB $300 or half size for $160 and Samsung 840 EVO.
www.macperformanceguide.com -
Early 2008 Mac Pro - Mountain Lion Crashing
I have an Early 2008 Mac Pro. After upgrading from Lion I have been experiencing random crashes while using varoious applications (anything from more processor instensive applications like Adobe CS6 products or even just running Mail or Safari with little activity). It seems that many of the crashes happen while 'swiping' between screens, but not all crashes seem to be triggered that way. I'm inclined to think that these problems are from a software related issue because I wasn't experiencing any of these types of problems on Lion.
The crash sequence happens the same each time:
1. Monitor brightness subtly and briefly increases.
2. A gray screen appears for 2-4 seconds.
3. Then the screen returns to the desktop view, all the Apps have crashed (usually losing most recent data) and are then in the process of re-starting automatically.
4. No error logs ever appear for any of the Apps. In Lion, I was used to seeing the computer generate an error log, but these crashes do not make any error logs appear. I'm not sure if this is a product of ML or just the instance of this particular problem.
*Note - The system is responsive after the crash happens, and I never have to restart the computer.
I ran the 'Verify' hard drive test (found in Disk Utility) and my hard drive came up clean.
I also ran the Apple hardware test from the original install discs and that came up clean as well.
I'm trying to determine my next steps. Do I try a fresh install of ML on a new hard drive? Are there drivers that need to be updated on my current hard drive?
Please feel free to point me to threads that already address this issue. Thank you.Here's the Full .crash report:
Process:
WindowServer [304]
Path:
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/C oreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/WindowServer
Identifier:
WindowServer
Version:
322
Code Type:
X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]
User ID:
88
Date/Time:
2012-08-29 14:30:06.993 -0500
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.8.1 (12B19)
Report Version: 10
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
Assertion failed: (REGION_IS_REGION(region1)), function CGRegionCreateUnionWithRegion, file Regions/CGRegion.c, line 193.
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8fadd212 __pthread_kill + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff88636b34 pthread_kill + 90
2 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8867adfa abort + 143
3 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8867bdd5 __assert_rtn + 146
4 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d37e972 CGRegionCreateUnionWithRegion + 239
5 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d6e1a61 CGXDisplayUnionFlushShape + 500
6 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d634c90 CGXAcquireDisplayDeviceSurface + 1615
7 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d81c182 CGXBeginSurfaceLayerUpdate + 3026
8 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d5bdd92 prepare_CoreAnimation_update_state + 330
9 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d5b82c4 CGXUpdateDisplay + 869
10 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d51cfd1 run_timer_pass + 381
11 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d63d09e CGXRunOneServicesPass + 198
12 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d63d85e CGXServer + 1000
13 WindowServer
0x000000010a082f41 main + 9
14 libdyld.dylib
0x00007fff896d37e1 start + 1
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8faddd16 kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff90ef3e26 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 883
2 libdispatch.dylib
0x00007fff90ef3a2a _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8fadb686 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8fadac42 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff86c79f23 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 195
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff86c7f606 __CFRunLoopRun + 1078
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff86c7edd2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 290
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff86c8da81 CFRunLoopRun + 97
6 com.apple.CoreGraphics
0x00007fff8d68d207 eventThread + 379
7 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff88635782 _pthread_start + 327
8 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff886221c1 thread_start + 13
Thread 3:: com.apple.CoreAnimation.render-server
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8fadb686 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff8fadac42 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.QuartzCore
0x00007fff8740b35b CA::Render::Server::server_thread(void*) + 403
3 com.apple.QuartzCore
0x00007fff8748fe76 thread_fun + 25
4 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff88635782 _pthread_start + 327
5 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff886221c1 thread_start + 13
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000000000006 rcx: 0x00007fff55b74808 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x0000000000000707 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff55b74830 rsp: 0x00007fff55b74808
r8: 0x00007fff76e76278 r9: 0x00000000000000c1 r10: 0x0000000020000000 r11: 0x0000000000000206
r12: 0x00007fff8d8b1274 r13: 0x00007fff8d8b12c4 r14: 0x00007fff76e77180 r15: 0x00007fff8d8b11cf
rip: 0x00007fff8fadd212 rfl: 0x0000000000000206 cr2: 0x00007fff76e6ffe8
Logical CPU: 0
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With an early 2008 Mac Pro I'm about to add a second internal drive (1 TByte SATA) and initially install OSX Lion onto the new drive. Then to partition this new HDD via Boot camp. But my question is whether I am best advised to purchase the 64 bit version of Windows 7 (Home Premium) or the 32 bit version of Windows 7 (Home Premium) for the Windows sector of the disk What are the differences, and will I notice a difference in performance?
In chart from wiki, (scroll down to "Comparison chart") check the maximum CPUs supported.
You don't see this on MSoft's 1st searched for chart hit. This is one reason you will regret not paying for Professional+ if you get Home Premium 64 as I did for Mac Pro early 2008.
Home Prem Task Mgr sees 4 processors vs. the 8 that are seen by Pro+.
Costs more than a Mac upgrade to Lion if you make that mistake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions -
Early 2008 Mac Pro + nVidia 8800: Never going to work?
This forum is littered with threads about early 2008 Mac Pros with the nVidia 8800 card - none of them positive.
I was unfortunate enough to wait for Apple to release such a machine and buy it. Graphics performance is dire given the hardware available. The machine routinely crashes with the window manager hang problem (the user interface just locks up, yet network services etc. still work), in the way familiar to anyone blighted by this particular bug; just run the Folding@Home client on your machine if you want to experience the joy. Or screensavers, sometimes, so I've had to turn those off. And I've had to turn off monitor power saving too, because I too suffer from the 'monitors sometimes don't wake up' bug. And of course I can't sleep the machine either, because firmware upgrade or not, it's still not reliable. And after all this, still the machine crashes.
SSH to the machine; try to restart cleanly; even 'sudo reboot' won't restart it. Apple have achieved something I've never seen out of any Unix or Unix-like operating system, ever; the kernel is unable to kill its own processes.
There have been no indications from Apple that I've seen on these forums over several weeks that the problem is even being acknowledged, let alone tackled. Latest reports indicate that even the 1st gen Mac Pro owners are suffering if they install the 8800.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1460752&tstart=0
My machine rarely makes it through the day without a forced reboot due to the window manager hanging. I can't do any work on it. I can't rely on it. I can't enjoy it. I can't even use it for web browsing without fear of it hanging.
There seem to be no facts about this at all. So all I can ask for is opinions. Does anyone have any offering of hope that early 2008 Mac Pros might ever work properly with 8800 cards? Y'know, little things, like actually being able to handle graphics? Or sleeping the monitors? Or, heaven forbid, sleeping the whole machine? Or should I just send it back as unfit for purpose?
Yours, tired and exasperated... :-/I posted this in some other blog (forum), I should have posted this here also but I hope this gives you and all with these problems hope!! I also ran some fish tank test some else posted to get the folding problem to happen and I can not get it to happen at all now, and since my 8800 went in I get NO LOCKUPS, SCREEN FREEZES, shaky blurry video when I boot, so far NOTHING, IT JUST WORKS!!!!!!!!
Now that I think about it the person who said to use the fish tank program had a bad 8800 and maybe you do also!! here is the link to that:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6965475�
I purchased my first mac pro early 08 2 months ago (amazon.com).
2 quad core 2.8's, 2 gig apple 4 gig OWC total 6 gig ram,2-WD raptors (1st mac 2nd boot camp winxp 32 bit), apple care.
I had all my problems with the ATI card (I always purchased ATI, never Nvidia, for all the PC's I built) a couple of times I bought the first ones out, these had all kinds of problems until good drivers that actually worked were released (usually 6-12 months after the release of the card).
So I try not to buy routers, graphic cards, etc.. for at least 6-12 months, but back to my 2600 card!!
When I received my mac the graphics would freeze, I did a lot of online reading only to find out the ATI 2600 was the problem, the cure was to hook up 2 monitors to the card (and that worked!!).
Then they came out with the firmware update, now my main monitor would after 2 days on a reboot be scambled (samsung syncmaster 213t, NEVER had ANY problem with it before on any PC I had, so I knew it was not the monitor) to fix the problem I had to either turn power off to the syncmaster or resetting PRAM (worked for a couple more days, then the same problem).
I called apple and they sent a tech out within days to replace the ATI card, the replacement did the same thing after a couple of days, so I called Apple back and they took a bunch of info from my computer (BTW not much at all loaded in the mac side) and said to call back in a week, so I called back a week later and they said they were going to exchange the card for either another ati 2600 or the Nvidia 8800, I said 8800 and a day later on a saturday I received it, swapped the card and NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS at all!!
So I don't know if the ATI card has problems with certain monitors or they are just poorly made (maybe AMD is mad with Apple that Apple did not use AMD processors).
I have read others that swapped with the 8800 and their problems went away also!!!!
Maybe some have no problems with the 2600, but I would not recommend it to anyone, if you can avoid the 2600 GO WITH THE 8800, the drivers will get better (and the 8800 will eventually outperform the ATI)and you will not be sorry.
Apple is awesome, they are 2nd to none, their is no other company like this anymore that I have dealt with in a long time (not just because they gave me a 8800), like I said in the beginning of this post I always purchased ATI cards and would have kept it if it would have worked but 2 doing the same, ATI [AMD] has lost my support until they prove otherwise.
I recommend Mac's to everyone now!!
good luck and let me know it any of this has helped!!!!!!!!!! -
Early 2008 Mac Pro wakes up from sleep with Mavericks.
Ever since I upgraded to OSX Mavericks on Tuesday, my early 2008 Mac Pro keeps waking up from sleep mode every couple hours. It goes back to sleep again on its own though after a minute, so I'm thinking it's some kind of new automated feature that I'm not aware of. With the Mac Pro being fairly loud when it wakes up from sleep mode, it woke me up three times last night! Is there some kind of option in the system preferences that I'm not aware of that can deactivate this new behavior? I usually only shut down my computer once a week, and keep it in sleep mode when I'm not using it most of the time, but I'm going to have to start shutting it down every night now to keep it from waking me up throughout the night...
Hello MARl0,
You may want to disable the Power Nap functionality, if available, in System Preferences -> Energy Saver.
OS X Mavericks: Change Power Nap settings
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14391
Cheers,
Allen -
where can I buy and what type of solid state drive should I use to upgrade my early 2008 Mac Pro Desktop??
Rick,
When you get a chance.... DSLReports is off line: their SQL server decided to take its indexes and access to data. Power. Not enough of the right kind of UPS. Same happened to StorageReview's "Drive Reliability Database" about 8-9 yrs ago.
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SSD: Loading CS5 plus other little monsters might matter.
Lots of small I/Os
latency of 1/100th where nanoseconds replace those "long" milliseconds
System: Small and fast.
DLLoyd even goes for short-stroking drives to get and maintain highest I/O
The new 10k VRs hit 200MB/sec - I still use them and still find them useful, long lasting, feel responsive with whatever I ask of them. I know they get criticized and "cost too much"
Just bought a new WD Black and yes it is better than the 2008 model I was using.
600GB 10K $200 vs $150-220 for WD Black. your choice
I can destroy a 7.2k drive, I have brought ever 10K drive back after a simple WD Extended Test in Lifeguard.
I don't really care about $$/GB or I wouldn't have just bought Intel 128GB $149
Database: the pros put the index in memory and page fix (virtual volumes in memory; cache; hold disk drive index in memory). Caching storage has been around for almost 40 yrs.
Today you can use SSDs as front end cache to hold DB indexes and frequent data for web servers and such adn use slower secondary storage.
SSD + SAS + 4TB storage
Separating the system from data: #1 must
Having data on array: been what I use
I put a large photo library on 2 x 10K VRs vs SSD and couldn't tell much difference (SSD is soundless of course) But my WD Blacks make as much noise and run 15*C hotter than those 10K (not what you expect?)
While 10K and 7.2K are in the 140-180MB/sec range, they are in 3.0 to 12.0 ms seeks, not 0.01 ms.
People wonnder why shrink a drive to 2.5" (or why not go down to 1.8".
How long does it take to reposition a disk head? how often? the 10K VR travels on outer tracks at 70 MPH. Really trying to fly off into space.
It uses one step to find the "zip code" and then another DSP to find the "house."
True of any high density perpendicular recording mechanism.
And of course while the Raptor-X tried to find a home with famers, Cheetah buyers, the WD 10K line has more of a home where servers and small form factor drives - and 100s of them - can fit in a rackmount server I imagine.
Anyway.... if SR and DSLReports can drop out of site due to power and hardware failure and loss... we can learn some and hope to protect our own data and investments. -
Early 2008 Mac Pro to run Yosemite?
Hello all.
I have an early 2008 Mac Pro 3.1 with quad-core Intel Xeon and I am trying to do a clean install of Yosemite with a bootable USB flash drive. When I power up the machine (while holding option key) I see the Yosemite installer. I double click it. I get the apple logo with the progress bar across the bottom, but it only gets about 25% of the way and then I get the circle with a line. Any ideas? I have upgraded the EFI per (EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Macs - Apple Support)
Thank you!The installer flash drive is defective or you don't have a 2008 MP.
Upgrading to Yosemite
You can upgrade to Yosemite from Lion or directly from Snow Leopard. Yosemite can be downloaded from the Mac App Store for FREE.
Upgrading to Yosemite
To upgrade to Yosemite you must have Snow Leopard 10.6.8 or Lion installed. Download Yosemite from the App Store. Sign in using your Apple ID. Yosemite is free. The file is quite large, over 5 GBs, so allow some time to download. It would be preferable to use Ethernet because it is nearly four times faster than wireless.
OS X Mavericks/Yosemite- System Requirements
Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Yosemite
1. iMac (Mid 2007 or newer) - Model Identifier 7,1 or later
2. MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer) - Model Identifier 5,1 or later
3. MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
4. MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer) - Model Identifier 2,1 or later
5. Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
6. Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
7. Xserve (Early 2009) - Model Identifier 3,1 or later
To find the model identifier open System Profiler in the Utilities folder. It's displayed in the panel on the right.
Are my applications compatible?
See App Compatibility Table - RoaringApps. -
Early 2008 Mac Pro Startup Problems.
Hi all,
I have an Early 2008 Mac Pro - 2x 2.8ghz Intel Xeon Quad Core processors, 12 gigs of Ram, 1x Nvidia 8800GT graphics card and I am running Windows Vista 64bit through bootcamp. I am running Snow Leopard. I have one monitor it is a Samsung 226bw - 22inch and it is connected via dvi and vga on the monitor side.
I have recently had my computer updated to the latest 10.65 (something like that).
Anyway my current problem is that:
a)The computer does not load up any operating systems and it is just a blank screen.
b) Sometimes all you hear is the Apple loading Chime "doong" constantly, and a blank screen.
c) Sometimes I can get to the windows selection screen for safe mode. I pick safe mode but it just goes to a blank screen. Also the monitor does not pick any signals up as it goes no source etc.
What I have tried:
a) I have changed the monitor cables 3 different ones.
b) I have taken all the other hard drives out.
c) I cannot get into Mac OSX or Windows Vista ( however Vista is the default OS right now)
d) I can connect my main hdd and copy all my windows stuff, but I cannot see any of the apple osx.
My suspicions are it is graphics card,or hard drive related.
I have ordered a new graphics card a ATI Radeon 5770 ( wont come for 6days) and I have a new hard drive a WD Black Caviar 1tb.
My Questions:
a) I would like to know what your ideas are on my current situation and Mac Pro symptons.
b) Is there a way I could format the WD Black Caviar HDD to a Mac Extended one in Windows on my laptop connected via sata?
c) If "b" is possible could I then use my Mac Pro/Mac OSX or snow leopard discs to create a OSX for my Mac Pro?
d) Or should I just wait for my graphics card to come and see if is just the Nvidia 8800gt failing?
e) If it is not the graphics card then do you believe it is the hard drive? or could it be something else?
Any assistance would be kindly appreciated.
KInd Regards
BobbyVista on its own hard drive? Windows doesn't like to move the drive bay.
you could boot from Vista DVD (I'd upgrade to Windows 7 SP1 when possible)
clone backups - for both
emergency boot drive / OS X DVD - you can, and should, always have more than one Mac OS boot volume handy. So yes use 10.6 DVD
Preventative and disk maintenance (Disk Warrior etc)
You would need something like MacDrive8 or Paragon HFS8 to really have good access to HFS from Vista assuming the volume is safe to mount and access. -
Early 2008 Mac Pro for home use
Hello guys,
I've been using usual Windows PCs at home (watching movies through HDMI, playing a few games - Counter Strike and random racing games), browsing internet, working in PS and Light room etc, but mostly for watching HD movies. But I was able to get myself Early 2008 Mac Pro - 10gb memory, two dual core intel xeon processors, 256 Ati Radeon graphics cards and 1tb ssd hard drive. Now I wanted to know how good is Mac Pro for home use? As I said I don't do many things with my windows based PC and wanted to switch to faster, quieter mac pro. Any opinions? How good it is as a home entertainment center?
P.S. Counter strike is available now for Mac, so I don't really care about other games.dump the 2600XT and there I would pay for a Mac Edition AMD 7950, else PC card
1TB SSD is unusual gift
even though 8 cores it is 6 yrs old and most things don't use 8 cores that much, it predates the i7-920,
USB3 has to be added if you want it or put USB3 on your LAN router is what I do.
It does not get the official nod of support from Apple for Windows 8/8.1 but it does if you want run 7 or 7 Pro (dual cpu support)
FBDIMMs have gotten better and cheaper if you want or need to, many do, often due to early death. -
Early 2008 Mac Pro + Mini Displayport?
Is there a way to upgrade the video card in an early 2008 Mac Pro to support Mini Displayport? I'd like to get the LED Display but I'd like to avoid using a DVI to Mini DisplayPort adapter in favor of simply getting a new video card.
I noticed the new 2009 Mac Pro's have NVIDIA cards that support Mini DisplayPort; will these work in an early 2008 Mac Pro? Is there any option for this?by 2nd generation mac pro, do you mean the pre - early09 version?
if so, how certain are you that this card will work on it? apple site states only early09 compatibility with no mention of prior generations. pls clarify, as i'm looking into buying a displayport card and have a mac pro of a generation right before the early 09.
i also found this alternative:
http://pcworld.about.com/od/desktops/Mini-DisplayPort-Faster-Graph.htm -
Early 2008 Mac Pro - worth bothering with?
Hi,
Someone in my building threw out an early 2008 Mac Pro with no hard drives.
I put in a spare that I have lying around and it seems ok -- but a bit slow. I'm now in the process of installing Mavericks on it.
I'm curious if this computer is worth bothering with? If so, what are some essential upgrades that would make this hum? I'm assuming an SSD? Should I bother finding extra ram for it (it has 4gb now).
What would be some good uses -- I already have an apple tv and a htpc in the living room.. I suppose I can use it in the bedroom? Can this be a functioning secondary computer for my wife who doesn't game but does use iPhoto/Word/Netflix etc? And if so what should I add?
Thanks everyone for your help!alphaace wrote:
If my wife just watches netflix/browser/word etc --- no games -- but does do a heavy bit of photo editing -- should I upgrade the gpus?
And if so, what would everyone recommend?
Also, I need to buy some hard drive caddies (only one left in it) -- however, I need a converter to put in a ssd right (as they are 2.5")? Any recommendations on those?
I have been able to find Mac Pro drive caddies on eBay. Here's one that would get you a set of 4:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Mac-Pro-Hard-Drive-Sled-Caddy-Complete-Set-1-4-Mac -Pro-2006-2008-/111386524693?pt=US_Drive_Bay_Caddies&hash=item19ef277c15. The screws appear to all be there.
In terms of adapters, this one was in my 2006 Mac Pro when I got it, and it seemed to work fine, although I didn't keep it in there very long:
http://www.amazon.com/Icy-Dock-EZConvert-2-5-Inch-Converter/dp/B002Z2QDNE
OWC sells a couple of 2.5" drive adapters also.
I wouldn't worry about upgrading the graphics until your wife has had a chance to do some photo editing on it. You may not need to upgrade the card for a while, if ever.
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