Early 2013 MacBook Pro vs Current MacBook Pro

I have an early-2013 15" Retina MacBook Pro (2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 768GB SSD). MacMall has a good deal on the current MacBook Pro (2.8GHz quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD). The new one has updated processor (Haswell vs IvyBridge), larger hard drive and AC wifi vs N. Would I notice a difference at all or is it worth waiting for next-gen MacBook Pros. I assume they will come with the new trackpad and other enhancements that the just released 13" MacBook Pro has. New MacBook Pro is $2944 and can probably get about $1000 to $1,200 for the old one.

There will be a slight improvement in performance, but I could not state definitively that you would notice it other than in a benchmark. A faster clock and Haswell CPU is a slight improvement, but I wouldn't consider it major based on benchmarks I've seen published when Haswell's were first released. If you look for them on Google perhaps they can give you a more definitive answer to your question.
As it is you still have considerable life left in what you have, so you need to consider whether the change in performance is worth the added net expenditure of $1,900.00.

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FYI: The latest Macbook Pro Retina uses the GeForce GT 750m... This is essentially the same graphic card that performs about 10 - 20% faster due to a new "boost mode." More importantly, it actually has the exact same number of Cuda cores. Having the same number of Cuda Cores means that the Cuda Acceleration is essentially the same when exporting or viewing video. To prove a point to Apple that their 2013 Macbook Pro Retina isn't functioning properly, I bought the latest computer with the 2.5 i7, 16gb Ram, 512gb SSD and I can honestly say that the 2014 model works perfectly fine with Cuda Acceleration turned on while editing in Premiere. I can also say that a proper render test proved the 2013 and 2014 model to be the exact same.
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I need to own a windows pc or at least have windows 7 environment to work in for some college courses. I own Windows 7 Pro. Is there a way for me to install this onto my current my Macbook Pro Retina Early 2013 Release?
If So, How do I do this?
Can it be done to an extrernal 1TB Hard Drive that I can plug in and use only as needed?
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Limbic_Pastry wrote:
I need to own a windows pc or at least have windows 7 environment to work in for some college courses. I own Windows 7 Pro. Is there a way for me to install this onto my current my Macbook Pro Retina Early 2013 Release? ...
While it's possible to run Windows 7 or the Mac OS using Bootcamp, you can run Windows 7 and the Mac OS at the same time by creating a virtual machine (VM) using VMware Fusion, Parallels, or Virtual Box. One advantage of a virtual machine is that you can put the VM file on an external drive so that the VM file size isn't limited to available space on your internal. Another is that you can back up that file and/or create snapshots of the state of Windows at any point in time and revert to that state in seconds if something (e.g., a virus infection) goes terribly wrong. I have such a setup running in a rMBP early 2013 myself and it's very fast.

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Mon Nov 3 16:43:08 2014
*** Panic Report ***
panic(cpu 6 caller 0xffffff7f868daf63): "GPU Panic: [<None>] 3 0 a0 d9 9 8 0 3 : NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0x104000000 0xffffff8114d8a000 0x0e7150a2, D0, P3/4\n"@/SourceCache/AppleGraphicsControl/AppleGraphicsControl-3.7.21/src/Apple MuxControl/kext/GPUPanic.cpp:127
Backtrace (CPU 6), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff8111a12d30 : 0xffffff8003d3a811
0xffffff8111a12db0 : 0xffffff7f868daf63
0xffffff8111a12e90 : 0xffffff7f84a1cd28
0xffffff8111a12f50 : 0xffffff7f84ae71b6
0xffffff8111a12f90 : 0xffffff7f84ae7226
0xffffff8111a13000 : 0xffffff7f84d1ed7e
0xffffff8111a13090 : 0xffffff7f84d3650b
0xffffff8111a130d0 : 0xffffff7f84b5fa13
0xffffff8111a13100 : 0xffffff7f84b5f99d
0xffffff8111a13130 : 0xffffff7f84c6dc9f
0xffffff8111a13160 : 0xffffff7f84c6f971
0xffffff8111a13200 : 0xffffff7f84c6ff38
0xffffff8111a13280 : 0xffffff7f84a31bbf
0xffffff8111a132d0 : 0xffffff7f84c74157
0xffffff8111a13430 : 0xffffff7f84c745fa
0xffffff8111a134b0 : 0xffffff7f84b1ebee
0xffffff8111a13680 : 0xffffff7f84b1d78f
0xffffff8111a136c0 : 0xffffff7f84b2d8f8
0xffffff8111a13720 : 0xffffff7f84b27d63
0xffffff8111a13740 : 0xffffff7f84ae3f76
0xffffff8111a13780 : 0xffffff7f84ae3060
0xffffff8111a137e0 : 0xffffff7f84a20164
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0xffffff8111a13ba0 : 0xffffff7f849cf4c6
0xffffff8111a13be0 : 0xffffff7f849818d0
0xffffff8111a13c70 : 0xffffff7f849798ac
0xffffff8111a13cb0 : 0xffffff7f849d0164
0xffffff8111a13d00 : 0xffffff80042b85b1
0xffffff8111a13d50 : 0xffffff80042ff0b5
0xffffff8111a13dc0 : 0xffffff8003dea95e
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0xffffff8111a13e40 : 0xffffff8003d235a3
0xffffff8111a13e90 : 0xffffff8003d33e8d
0xffffff8111a13f10 : 0xffffff8003e0a142
0xffffff8111a13fb0 : 0xffffff8003e3ac66
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com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[6D99A3BE-D531-3780-880B-13F2FC894A4A]@0 xffffff7f8496f000->0xffffff7f849a9fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[766FC23F-452C-3B74-951C-598BB17BCF06]@0xffffff 7f84524000
com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl(3.7.21)[32B7E2DE-1F9D-3555-B687-7A76A62B81D2]@ 0xffffff7f868cc000->0xffffff7f868dffff
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[6D99A3BE-D531-3780-880B-13F2FC894A4A]@0 xffffff7f8496f000
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert(1.1.0)[0183904C-6A16-32C4-9405-EEFD7F820B 02]@0xffffff7f868c7000
com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAResman(10.0)[53CC0E05-7382-336C-8239-AE884D6CA71A]@ 0xffffff7f849cc000->0xffffff7f84c41fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[766FC23F-452C-3B74-951C-598BB17BCF06]@0xffffff 7f84524000
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.4.1)[6D99A3BE-D531-3780-880B-13F2FC894A4A]@0 xffffff7f8496f000
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com.apple.nvidia.driver.NVDAGK100Hal(10.0)[DC43029D-568A-3B7C-976B-E922C17F5143 ]@0xffffff7f84c4d000->0xffffff7f84dfafff
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[766FC23F-452C-3B74-951C-598BB17BCF06]@0xffffff 7f84524000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer

The logic board is faulty and will have to be replaced.
Make a "Genius" appointment at an Apple Store, or go to another authorized service provider. You may have to leave the machine there for several days.
Back up all data on the internal drive(s) before you hand over your computer to anyone. There are ways to back up a computer that isn't fully functional—ask if you need guidance.
If privacy is a concern, erase the data partition(s) with the option to write zeros* (do this only if you have at least two complete, independent backups, and you know how to restore to an empty drive from any of them.) Don’t erase the recovery partition, if present.
Keeping your confidential data secure during hardware repair
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*An SSD doesn't need to be zeroed.

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It would appear that the retina would be a good deal.
Do you know the other party?
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MacBook Pro Retina early 2013?

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Non-Retina Macbook Pro Vs. Refurbished Early 2013 Retina Macbook Pro

Hey guys,
Im currently shopping around for a new laptop as I start University Monday and still have not decided on a Macbook. I originally thought I'd be completely fine purchasing a Non Retina Macbook Pro with student pricing at $999. I was ready to purchase it when I found myself gaining more interest in the Retina version, which seems to be better in every possible way except hard drive space, as well as the obvious difference in price. I feel as is 128GB will be not nearly enough, and the 256GB is $1500 at student pricing, which after tax will be way out of my budget. I've narrowed it down to two choices really, the Newest Non Retina Macbook Pro 13 inch $999, and a Refurbished February 2013 Retina Macbook Pro 13 inch, Non iris and 256 GB.
http://store.apple.com/ca/product/FE...retina-Display
There's the link for it... I guess I'm simply just asking for your opinions guys. My laptop will be used for Internet Browsing, Watching shows, Simple Movie editing, Music, and the occasional low requirement gaming (League of Legends).
One of my concerns is also Resale.. I believe by 2-4 Years I will want to sell my macbook, and Im not sure anyone will even want to purchase a non retina by then, or the value will just plummet.
Also, is the difference in hardware that crazy between the Earlier Retina and current non retina? I know the current retina blows the non retina out of the water, but Im not sure about the early 2013 retina.
I've been saying retina too much lately...
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First let me address the issue of refurbished MBPs. Same warranty and telephone support as a new one. I have done this three times and will also probably do it next time. In every instance there have been NO detectable cosmetic flaws.
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Games on any MBP are not going to be a top notch experience. They do not excel in that department.
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Macbook Pro 15" Early 2013 - Built in SSD very slow to boot.

Hey Everyone,
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I rebooted the Mac and the same problem… took around a minute to boot…
I gave up and installed all my software and set up the computer… Ive been using it now for about a month and honestly cant complain.. Its been very fast and works brilliantly: with one caveat. If I restart it or start it up from power - off status, it still takes around a minute to boot.
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Knowing exactly what that AppleUSBMultitouchDriver driver does, I removed it from the System / Library / Extensions folder. I plugged in a USB mouse (as the trackpad will now fail to work) and rebooted…
Bingo! the computer started in about 4 seconds! - however no trackpad (as expected)
I re-installed the driver, rebooted and it took 1 minute again, but the trackpad worked again..
I did this a few times to make sure 100% it was this driver causing the problem, and it is…
so I need help.. anyone experienced this? know a fix?.. or do I have a faulty trackpad? (the trackpad works perfect btw)
hmmmm…..

Hey Everyone,
Ok here is my problem.. I have a brand new BTO 2.7 GHz Retina MacBook Pro 15" (Early 2013 - ME665LL/A). It has an internal 500gb SSD.
Right out of the box, it took about 1 minute to boot... The Apple logo would appear and the spinning wheel below would spin for up to a minute before the welcome to Macintosh pre-configure window appears.
Figuring something had gone wrong with the OS install at manufacture, I booted into the recovery partition, reformatted the SSD and re-installed the OS. After the horrendous amount of time it took to initially download Mac OS 10.9 from iTunes, the install was successful.
I rebooted the Mac and the same problem… took around a minute to boot…
I gave up and installed all my software and set up the computer… Ive been using it now for about a month and honestly cant complain.. Its been very fast and works brilliantly: with one caveat. If I restart it or start it up from power - off status, it still takes around a minute to boot.
Ive booted up into verbose mode and discovered when Mavericks starts the initial driver loads, the computer hangs on the “AppleUSBMultitouchDriver”. It hangs for 30 seconds, then about a second later says “got response code 2 reinitialised driver” and then continues to load Mavericks successfully.
Knowing exactly what that AppleUSBMultitouchDriver driver does, I removed it from the System / Library / Extensions folder. I plugged in a USB mouse (as the trackpad will now fail to work) and rebooted…
Bingo! the computer started in about 4 seconds! - however no trackpad (as expected)
I re-installed the driver, rebooted and it took 1 minute again, but the trackpad worked again..
I did this a few times to make sure 100% it was this driver causing the problem, and it is…
so I need help.. anyone experienced this? know a fix?.. or do I have a faulty trackpad? (the trackpad works perfect btw)
hmmmm…..

Memory leakage Macbook pro retina 15inch Early 2013

Hi,
This is my first posting to the Apple community, so please forgive me if have missed a previous posting on this subject.
I have an early 2013 15 inch MBPro retina running 8 gigs. My previous device was a MBpro 15 early 2008 4 gigs of ram. I never expected the 2013 with double the ram to be constantly dropping below 2 gigs with only FireFox and/or MS word running.   The older 2008 device used only 2 gigs to run these programs. It appears that the 2013 model is using 6 gigs.
I took the 2013 15 inch MBpro retina to the Apple store for the Geniuses to run their diagnostics. They said my device was running normally. To prove such, they simultaneously opened Jim Carrey's web site 8 times and showed me that all of his the crazy stuff was working in each window. They said that it is normal for a SSD machine to run on low memory.
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that when my memory drops when just using my normal Firefox based surfing, my track pad scrolling starts to get very sluggish until my "memory clean" kicks in at 1.6 gigs and brings the memory up to around 2.5 gigs. As I continue to surf, then the process repeats itself. I never expected my old 2008 device to use significantly less ram running light applications better than my new 2013 device.
I have seen others post an "EtreCheck" and hopefully by posting mine, somebody can find what the Apple Geniuses could not.
Thank you for your help!!
EtreCheck version: 2.0.11 (98)
Report generated November 18, 2014 at 7:09:33 PM EST
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    MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) (Verified)
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro10,1
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    8 GB RAM Not upgradeable
        BANK 0/DIMM0
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        BANK 1/DIMM0
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    Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
    Wireless: en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Video Information: ℹ️
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        Color LCD spdisplays_2880x1800Retina
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - VRAM: 1024 MB
System Software: ℹ️
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    APPLE SSD SD256E disk0 : (251 GB)
    S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
        Macintosh HD (disk1) / [Startup]: 249.77 GB (174.31 GB free)
            Core Storage: disk0s2 250.14 GB Online
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    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    Logitech USB Receiver
    SanDisk Ultra 16.01 GB
        S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
        NO NAME (disk2s1) /Volumes/NO NAME : 16.01 GB (8.86 GB free)
    Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️
    Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Gatekeeper: ℹ️
    Mac App Store and identified developers
Kernel Extensions: ℹ️
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For OS X 10.9 and later it is normal that all memory is put to use. This shouldn't cause any slowness though (it doesn't on my rMBP with 8GB).
Have you tried things like SMC Reset, PRAM/NVRAM reset and Safe Boot?

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Куплен в апреле.
На гарантии.
Три недели назад отнес ноутбук в официальный сервис центр с проблемой: не видит SSD (не загружается, выдавая разные ошибки).
В сервисе продержали неделю - вернули с диагнозом: почистили контакты SSD, сбросили настройки питания (cmd+alt+r+p при загрузке).
Ноутбук проработал неделю. Теперь снова та же проблема. Пока спасаюсь cmd+alt+r+p при загрузке, но это не дело.
В чем дело и кто в Apple мог бы помочь разрешить проблему?

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Hi, I'm looking to get myself a new (or refurbished) MacBook Pro Retina.
And wondering which one to get (i.e. from the list below).
Brand New (Late-2013) - $2450 (after corporate discount):
CPU 2.3 Ghz (Haswell)
16GB RAM
512 GB SSD
Refurbished (Late-2013) - $2250:
CPU 2.3 Ghz (Haswell)
16GB RAM
512GB SSD
Refurbished (Early-2013) - $2200:
CPU 2.7Ghz (Ivy Bridge)
16GB RAM
512GB SSD
While it might be an obvious choice for some ppl - I'm a bit puzzled. Early-2013 can be with LG screen (which seems to have a lot of complains about).
Will Older-2.7Ghz vs. Newer-2.3Ghz be noticeable for an average user (not a Pro editor etc.)?
What is more important for average and normal (but multi-tasking) performance - is it CPU or RAM or SSD?
And does it make sense to pay $200 more for New vs. Refurbished?
Thanks in advance.

Comparing Late-2013 15” rMBPs.
The 2.6 GHz model is 17% faster on GeekBench 2 benchmarks and has more RAM and so will run faster, but will this percentage be noticeable?
The extra RAM will matter if and when you run enough programs so they do not all fit in memory. For light duty processing that should happen rarely in 8 GB. Even if you run a memory-hungry program like PhotoShop, the extra RAM does not make much of a difference. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5659174?tstart=30 There are larger-memory programs where it would matter but those are not in the mix you have mentioned.
Again the GPU speeds will differ:
2.0 GHz model: Intel Iris Pro 5200 (2.0 GHz)
2.6 GHz model: NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M and Intel Iris Pro 5200
For graphics intensive applications the rendering speed differences will be noticeable.
On the applications you mentioned it willl be hard to tell the difference in speed on these two models. Thus you might as well get the one with the larger SSD. If you were to include graphics rendering programs then the 2.6 GHz model speed would be faster, but those are not in the mix of programs you mentioned.
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Hi! I need help with my Macbook Pro laptop (early 2013) that suddenly slowed down, and heats up while sleeping. It slowed down 3 days ago. I want to know what checks I can do to find what is wrong with my laptop. Thank You

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