Early 70's Cine film

My parents have had all the Cine film they took of us as babies/children in the early 70's put on a DVD.
I have a copy thats been ripped as one long file to a .m4v file.
Am looking to edit it with FCPx but am having problems.... the first one being that the file is an hour and a half long.
I need to firstly separtate it into the individual clips most of which are about 30 seconds and then trim the last 20 odd minutes which is just empty static.
Using the Clip Viewer the theres not enough presision to take out 20 seconds from 90 minutes of film. Also not 100% sure how to make stand alone clips from each sequence.
Any help appreciated.

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I used a Samsung SMX-F40BP/XEU "Handycam" recording from the the image projected on to a screen. This produced mp4 video files on an SD Card, H.264/AVC Format with AAC Audio
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