EBP and SUS in Classic Scanerio !!!
Hello SRM Experts,
Is it possible to implement supplier enablement (SUS) with EBP in classic scenario. As far as I know there are two scenario in which SUS can be implemented.
1. EBP-SUS Scenario :-Used for Procurement of Services and Indirect Materials.
2. SUS-MM Scenario :- Used for Procurement of Direct Materials.
Currently we are in classic scenario SRM3.0 and want to upgrade to SRM 5.0 with SUS/LAC etc.. so we if we implement EBP-SUS scenario how the vendor will send purchase order/Response to EBP as in classic the PO is in R/3 not in EBP. Also in this case what all functionalty will the vendor (supplier) or buyer (Purchaser) will have than the normal EBP-SUS scanerio.
Thanks for your help.
Prashant
Hi Prashant,
I had the same situation - based on testing and discussion during my running project OSS Note "543544 SUS ECS for EBP not supported" has been issued.
Scenario SRM-SUS is NOT running in extended classic scenario.
You can give it a try in classic.
We are using SRM-MM scenario and have a working solution for indirect as well direct materials up and running.
Kind regards,
Claudia
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MM-EBP-SUS in classic scenario
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We have classic scenario to be implemeted with EBP-MMsystems.
Please let me know if SUS is also involved in this landscape to send the PO to the suppliers online what will be the exact process flow
Can SUS be integrated with EBP in this scenario.
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ManuManu
SAP Note 700350 will provide full details of the restrictions between the various SRM deployments and SUS.
In summary the procurement of materials in SRM-EBP with SUS integration is supported, (although there is always been some debate about this). The procurement of services is not supported, (unless you are on SRM 7.0 ramp-up), as it is not possible to replicate a SUS service confirmation back to SRM-EBP. SAP Consulting will provide a custom solution to overcome this restriction for a price, SAP Note 868192 describes.
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SRM 6.0 onwards only supports PI 7.1 not XI.
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Hi !
We would be replicating Vendors from R/3 as well as from EBP to SUS. I believe that there is certain configuration to check duplication of Vendors and also to assign a single business partner ID even if a Vendor is replicated both from EBP as well as from MM. Can anyone thro some light on this & the procedure...
ThanksHi,
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U can transfer the Vendor by using the T.Code - BBPGETVD.
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Your error due to incorrect mapping in Integration
Directory of XI.Kindly check the Interface
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Business Scenario on EBP,ROS and SUS
Hi friends
can any one send me a business scenario document so that EBP, ROS and SUS exist
Please mail to vinaykrishna007 at gmail
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