Eclipse board dead?

Hello,
I have an eclipse board that stopped working as soon as I installed it in another case.
I know what I'm doing so I don't see the odds as a personal screw-up too high, although considering the nature of when the problem began and the difficulty is seems to resolve it, makes me doubt.
pressing the power button nothing happens, power supply doesn't seem to react (even though it works tested on another pc)
using the panel buttons on the board doesn't do anything.
Actually it's basicly dead, except for the one LED I marked on the .jpg.
When searching in the board's manual, it just says 'Standby led' and thats it.
Is there anything at all I can try at this point?
I removed battery for a while, I tried the jumpers method.. nothing at all..
It's definitely a motherboard error, eliminated other possibilities.
Thanks in advance!

Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 15-January-13, 21:32:01
Test it outside of the case in a 'barebones' configuration.
Thankyou for the quick reply Froggy Gremlin.
I have, just the board and the power supply, using the on board power buttons..they light up but that's it.
The power doesn't do anything more than lighting up those buttons and the mysterious "Standby LED" in any circumstance I tried. Did it with RAM / processor / etc and without... even though I'm very sure it has nothing to do with other hardware failing besides the board.

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Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 12:43:21
I get this same situation.. except the event viewer doesnt state anything.
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Quote from: AaronYuri on 05-April-09, 12:56:57
That's way too high, even for 100% load. Reinstall the heatsink.
Quote from: Smoke on 05-April-09, 20:46:53
It is? I found another thread on this forum where it was mentioned that intel and msi said the IOH runs hot and to expect temps up to 100C. How do I go about changing the manufacturers heatsink on a board? Ive never done that before and cant find any procedural help thru google...
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Quote from: NovJoe on 05-April-09, 23:37:33
smoke,
Can you list out your full system spec and PSU spec?
System Spec:
Core i7 920 w/ TRUE 120
MSI eclipse SLI (bios 1.4)
6x 1gb corsair 1866mhz rated ram sticks (TR3X3G1866C9DF)
1500w thermaltake psu
galaxy gtx295 in the primary x16 pci-e slot
MSI eclipse soundcard in the 1st pci-e x1 slot
4x 1tb samsung 'UJ' hdd (raid 5)
O/S (= old winxp 32 bit until I get hold of a 64 bit os) running on 128gb PQI SSD
lg bluray burner
All the drives are sata2 and running on the ICHIOR ports.
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Temp info:
IOH temps are as I said, around 80 at startup but rise to at least 87 under load, but not really much further that Ive seen.
CPU temps are very low with the dual-fan TRUE 120 heatsink. I havet seen it go above 35C with a reasonably heavy processing load. Usually sits about 0-2C above ambient at most when idle.
System temps get to about 40 under load, or around 27-35 under regular usage, but Im not quite sure what thats measuring the temp of on the board.
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[edit] Updated the ram part number to be correct.

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1) Ive got to agree with HU16E with my ram. I have no trouble running at the 1333 JDEC spec. And I feel very positive about now being able to achieve the XMP spec with this new bios.
2) Thanks for the link Aaron. I did end up using the USB flash method from this forum. Worked perfectly. Chalk up another success story!
3) I did try to swap out the ssd last night, but the system kept soft rebooting while installing the OS on the spin drive. SO I gave up. Seems the ssd isnt a drawback under the new bios tho (assuming it even was a cause earlier).
4) Ive DL'ed the x64 windows 7 beta and I'll likely as not have a shot installing that and refitting the extra 3gb ram back into the system. I'll let you know how it goes. Theoretically 6x1gb sticks should be as much as 15-20% faster than 3x 2gb sticks (and were about that much cheaper for me at time of purchase) but I'll run some benchmarks now that the benchmarks work and let you know the differences in case anyone wants to build their box the same way.
Conclusion:
I'll stress the system over a bit for the next few days without overclocking and I'll see if I can bring the system to reboot like it did previously through high usage, and if I cant I'll change the thread to solved and write out a proper solution post for the problem, symptoms and solution.
Id like to take the opportunity to say thanks to all the guys who've given me help and advice. Youve all been really great. Thanks a bundle! I owe you one

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