EDI Formats

Hello B2B Experts,
Oracle B2B supports EDI feeds including 850,855,810
Does B2B supports these feeds
860(Change),
856(ASN),
820(PAY ADV),
824(Error Ack) ..?
Any pointers available for this ?
Thanks

Hi Dhiraj,
Thank you for your response.
Also can u let me know if volumes in below table are supported for these X12 documents. ?
Feed Type Expected Volume/Day
850" Inbound 75-100 (with avg. 5-10 lines perPO)
855" Outbound 75-100 (with avg. 5-10 lines per PO)
860" Inbound
856" Outbound
810" Outbound 50-75 (with avg. 3-5 lines per Invoice)
820" Inbound
824" Inbound
Thanks
Kranti
Edited by: user780436 on Apr 14, 2009 8:15 AM

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http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
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http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
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Thank you, Amit Kulkani, for your replies. I'm afraid neither answer is really an answer to my questions. May I elaborate?
a) In the first reply post, you write: " if we did not use EDI there might be many mannual error take place in operation. So In short only the security point of view EDI works better."
Assuming your target (SAP) tables have rules per each column and per each row, a direct SQL statement should not allow inappropriate information to be entered. I can accept that perhaps SAP was written without such safeguards, if that is what you are telling me, but in that case any direct data entry process is going to be vulnerable to data entry error. Or do you mean that no data entry whatsoever, at any point, at any time, occurs other than via EDI?
b) In the second reply post, you cite these advantages. Advantages over hand-writing the data on the back of a paper napkin and mailing it in a manila envelope for someone to retype into the system, yes, but how are any of these improved by using EDI instead of a direct connection from FileMaker?:
u2022 Reduced postage costs Huh?
u2022 Reduced expenses what expenses?
u2022 Speed I would think directly writing to the data would be considerably FASTER than exporting to EDI and then importing from EDI into SAP
u2022 Elimination of paper documents Who said anything about paper documents?
u2022 Elimination of labor intensive tasks, such as data entry Yes, what I propose would eliminate that also
u2022 Greater accuracy of information See above
Can you re-read my original post and give the same thoughtful consideration, but this time comparing EDI to what I am proposing (direct connection to the SAP tables), not comparing it to sending the data in on a piece of paper to be retyped manually when it arrives?
Thanks in advance, and thanks again for your answers so far.

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