Edirol UA-101 or FireBox ?

Hello,
Am deciding between the Edirol UA-101 (http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=703&ParentId=114) and the PreSonus FireBox (http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html)...
I am specifically looking for portability, good quality, and bus power...
What do you all think?
Also, are both devices "class compliant", and therefore work under OS X without special drivers?
Chris M.

I used a FA-101 and I and yes, it has no driver software, it uses the ones
in OSX but this, in my direct experience, caused a buzzing noise.
I documented this noise here...
http://www.screenlands.com/logic/firewireaudiointerface
There you will find info about this Edirol interface noise problem.
This is actually unwanted noise coming from the PowerBook but caused by the Edirol.
Recordings with this interface are fine, there is no noise in the recording.
However, I was surprised that there is so little info about this problem of
"Class Compliant Drivers" that are directly part of this noise problem.
There is a FIX for this problem called "CHUD" available here...
http://developer.apple.com/tools/download
The FA-66 is small and portable yes, but there is no input level meter.
There is that one single LED that is the clip indicator but if your used to
viewing you input signal on a larger led ladder or lcd screen that one little
light isn't enough to set and monitor input levels.
Also be aware that there is no software control for the Edirols like the controls for say, the M-Audio FW410 or the MOTU UltraLite.
Also, if you change the sample rate on the FA interfaces, you have to quit all your audio software, shut off the FA and turn it back on again.
Kind of a pain when it could be software controlled.

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Hate to say it, but it sounds like the device has gone kaputt.

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I've a big problem... I've installed Windows SP2 (on a Mac pro with the last version of Leopard) under Boot Camp to use an *Edirol Firewire audio unit, the Edirol FA-101*.
The unit _is recognized NOT like a 1394 unit BUT like a 61883 peripheral_ (mLAN standard of Yamaha).
WHY???
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I think I'm NOT the only with a Firewire Edirol Audio Unit FA-101 that can't work under Boot Camp...
QUESTION: *Boot Camp has a fault with all 1394 Firewire peripheral units* ???
Someone could HELP ME???... *because I need to use this unit BOTH under Windows AND OSX*
Thanks in advance.

OK my friends... I've a news.
I've found that when the installation proccess is going to finish there are some things that should be added in System Startup global entry but "somethings" makes that will not be able to be added anyway.
I've have an idea, but I don't know that could be true... is there a possibilities that REALTEK DRIVER makes a check about new changes in the Sound Control Panel and "roll -back" to a certain condition, deleting new entry in the System startup?
So, this is what Ive found:
(1) ---------------------------------
Change done by the Edirol installation process (it could be this way): value "MSPQM" (new data: "rundll32.exe streamci,StreamingDeviceSetup {DDF4358E-BB2C-11D0-A42F-00A0C9223196},{97EBAACB-95BD-11D0-A3EA-00A0C9223196},{ 97EBAACB-95BD-11D0-A3EA-00A0C9223196}")
But it has deleted by "something": value "MSPQM" (new data: "")
(2) ----------------------------------
Change done by the Edirol installation process (it could be this way): value "WDM_SPLITTER1" (new data: "rundll32.exe streamci.dll,StreamingDeviceSetup {2F412AB5-ED3A-4590-AB24-B0CE2AA77D3C},{9B365890-165F-11D0-A195-0020AFD156E4},{ 6994AD04-93EF-11D0-A3CC-00A0C9223196},C:\WINDOWS\INF\WDMAUDIO.inf,WDM_SPLITTER.I nterface.Install")
But it has deleted by "something": value "WDM_SPLITTER1" (new data: "")
(3) ------------------------------------
Change done by the Edirol installation process: value "MSPCLOCK" (new data: "rundll32.exe streamci,StreamingDeviceSetup {97ebaacc-95bd-11d0-a3ea-00a0c9223196},{53172480-4791-11D0-A5D6-28DB04C10000},{ 53172480-4791-11D0-A5D6-28DB04C10000}")
But it has deleted by "something": value "MSPCLOCK" (new data: "")
Now, I don't know what exactly is... I have to think about it... but IF SOMEONE HAS AN IDEA... LET ME KNOW ASAP.
Thanks

Problems with Edirol FA-101 firewire soundcard and Mavericks

Hi,
I have an Edirol FA-101 soundcard which was working flawlessly before upgrading to Mavericks. The sound comes out really weird and distorted in every application. I don't understand what is going on. Builtin soundcard is working right.
Is anyone else here having problems with their soundcard and sound, specially any firewire one?!?
Please advise because!
Regards,
Nuno Santos

I have opened a topic yesterday in a related question, but may be its not the adapter but mavericks? The simptomps are the same: Please read and respont...
My original post is this:
I just received my brand new custom ordered iMac, but it has only thunderbolt ports. My whole home studio system is based on my EDIROL FA101 Firewire audio interface that worked like a charm through the Firewire port on the older iMac. Now I had to buy an apple made Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter to conncet the EDIROL.
Now its bad... Everything is the same setup, as I use it for years, and it has nothing to do with drivers or Mavericks since the old computer I used until last week had Mavericks too. Now the music stops for seconds frequently in every player, iTunes, VLC, Youtube even Logic pro. Just stops for a sec, than continues and stops again and keeps doing this. (Just to make sure, I returned the Firewire - Thunderbolt adapter to the apple store and they gave me an other one, just to make sure that is not a corrupt adapter)
I have tried everything. First I have switched to BUS mod on the back of the EDIROL menas getting the power from the computer, cause I thought the power coming from the EDIROLs AC adapter and the Thunderbolt adapter is having some conflict but nothing changed, or I've got even more stops and some noise too. Than I pluged AC back on the EDIROL, so thunderbolt is getting it's power from the iMac, EDIROL from the wall, but I still have the issue. Stops, often, than not often. Sometimes I have 10 stops within a minute bot sometimes plays the song correctly... I need some help or advice.
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Not sure if this is the right forum but I have an Edirol FA-101 external firewire audio unit and it seems like prior to installing 10.4.11 update for Tiger the audio was perfect. Now however I get a constant level of what sounds like digital distortion even without any audio sources playing out of my FA-101.. I saw the forum/support notes regarding audio problem with 10.4.10.. just wondered if anyone has similar experiences..the audio device does not have it's own drivers but uses the mac built in firewire audio support.
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that's what outputs 3 and 4 are there for. You can't control one stereo output to do two different things at the same time... it says in the edirol manual that the headphone jack outputs the same as output 1 and 2 from the back.
Therefore if you want a separate stereo output pair to connect your speakers to, you must use outputs 3 and 4.
Edirol didn't make the unit for the pc - actually the hardware was designed for the mac (hence it's core audio compatibility out of the box).
Edirol's fa-101 and fa-66 (which I own) are mac product which just happen to work on the pc thanks to the driver they had to write after the fact to support windows xp. Plug the unit into a pc without the driver and nothing happens. plug it into a mac running osx and it's automagically configured for low latency, highest performance, midi and audio in and out.
Have fun owning the best interface you can get for the mac for the money!

Using Multiple Audio Interfaces With Logic (Edirol FA-101)

I just bought tiger so that i could aggregate my two edirol fa-101's and they still dont work. They cut out and the sync buttons flash. Its as if the computer ant deal with so much information. I stop all large processes on my g5 dual 1.8 and try again. They cut out whether im in Logic or not. One works ok but still cuts out sometimes, adding another has made the problem twice as bad. Any advice please. Ive talked to edirol and they have no idea what to do... Thanks, Ben

According to their web page, the FA-101 does accept SPDIF. They should be wired together with one unit should be set up as a master and the other as a slave. You units should sync up then.
As they are right now, the two units are competing to sync with Logic, causing the sound to pop and cut out.
jord

A little problem with the "Audio-MIDI Config" for my Edirol "FA-101"

Hi to all of you!
I bought an Edirol "FA-101" a couple weeks ago, and when I try to plug and record with many mics, from the backside inputs, it seems that these inputs don't give me the "punch" I need. I mean by that that I have to go trough my old Tascam "M-30" in way to use the preamps from the mixer, so I can have a little more input "volume", and then, plug the direct output from the mixer and then plug it in the back inputs of the "FA-101".
I was wondering why do I need to do that? Cause when I take a look at the "Audio-MIDI Config" (I do work in french, so, apologize for any translations errors), the "AMC" window don't show any inputs as "selectable", and, or, "ajustable". The link bellow shows the exact copy of what I see when I open the "AMC" set-up window:
http://www.geocities.com/macjamsimages/configaudiomidi.jpg
Now, I have to explain that I had some problems in the past, when installing QT 7. I tried to remove QT 7, but I think I removed some files, maybe importants ones. So, now, what I want to know, is if that setup is normal, and impossible to configure, or is it MacOS Panther 10.3.9 that need a reinstall?
And I have to say that GB and Logic Express both recognize the "FA-101" as audio inputs. But need a little help from the mixer.
Thanks in advance!

The inputs on the back of the Edirol unit are LINE LEVEL inputs, meaning they are require a high level of voltage to give a level. A microphone plugged directly into this input will not give you the required voltage, if you were to plug either the outputs of a mixing desk or something like a CD player into it you would get a level.
First of all you must use a microphone preamplifier, like the ones on the front panel. There are thousands of companies producing these and it shouldn't be hard to find them. You could also use any mixing desk which has multiple outputs, so as to split the channels out to the relevant channels in logic.
Hope this helps.

Can't see Edirol FA-101 in SP

I use an Edirol FA 101 10 channel firewire interface for my audio. Soundtrack Pro can't seem to see it in the preferences. Logic Express, Garageband, Peak, the system and Amadeus II see it and use it successfully. Try as I might, I can't seem to find a way to get SP to see it at all.
In Garageband, if the box is not set to 44.1 khz it shows up as greyed out in the selector with a note that it is not set to 44.1. In SP it simply does not show up. Set the switch, restart GB and away it goes. Nice touch.
Is anyone using this box successfully with SP?

Soundtrack Pro can't seem to see it in the preferences. >
What preferences are you talking about? Soundtrack Pro doesn't have preferences to set-up audio. You have to set-up that in the AudioMidi Setup.

GB won't output to Ch 9 & 10 (digital optical) on Edirol FA-101

Hi,
I have my MacBook set up to output to the FA-101 through channels 9 & 10. Everything work fine apart from Garageband.
I also have Logic Express and you can select the output on the individual channels and also the master channel. I can't seem to find a similar thing in GB.
My GB audio peferences are set up for FA-101 input and System Settings output (as the system setting outputs through FA-101 Ch 9 & 10).
Can you change the output channel of either the master or tracks?

I'm having an issue where the Edirol FA-101 will lock up my external FW drives. It was working then one day recently (possably after an update...??) it started locking my drives - rendering it un-useable. After reading some issues people are experiencing I believe it is quite possable the Mavericks TB/FW driver. I hope they correct it soon.

Seagate Drive and Edirol FA-101 Won't Play Nice

Turning on the power to my FA-101 somehow disconnects my Seagate drive. My iMac tells me that I should eject drives before disconnecting them, as if it were something I have done.
Each device is plugged into a Firewire port--tha FA-101 runs on bus power, the Seagate on an ac adapter.
This happens if the computer is running or is in sleep mode.
To get my hard drive running again, I unplug it and plug it back in.
I usually put the computer in sleep mode before flicking the power switch on the FA101, but since it seems to make no difference and my Mac now takes 30 seconds to go into sleep mode, I will sometimes skip that step.
I've tried just leaving the FA-101 on, even though it is a waste of energy, but after a night away, the sound is crackly and poppy and I have to reset it anyway.
1) Why??
2) Is there a boot procedure I should be using to start up my devices? My Edirol manual warned against "hotplugging", but didn't tell me how to go about start up/restart.

David_Pye wrote:
I used one of these for years, I found this problem the first time I used it. So I just used the bus power, and never turned it off. It's just on when it's plugged in. Do you need to turn it off?
I have to reset it after a while. I start to get crackling in the playback and recording. It's been on for about twelve hours today, and it's time to reset it already!
So, either I sleep the computer to do it, or I shut down and do it.
I found the power supply, but it was not with any socks.

Problems with Edirol fa 101

HAve recently moved house and have re set up my system in a new place.
Initially seemed to be working fine. Now logic doesn't seem to be getting any input from Edirol Firewire box. If I start up without it switched on then switch in it seems to find it ok. But not getting any input other than bypassing digital in straight to output amp.
Also logic won't now seem to close properly. I'm having to hold down the power switch to power down my mac. grr. any thoughts anyone? do I need to reinstall logic?

Hi
Power the FA 101 with the external power supply. Its much happier that way.
Repair your permissions.
Cheers

STP Won't Recognize Edirol FA 101 Fireware Interface

Anybody have any ideas as to why this is?
The FA 101 shows up in the sound control panel for in and out...it shows up as a viable inteface for GarageBand for crying out loud...why not in STP?
This is about as basic as they come in terms of getting sound (in this case VO) in. Is there a work around or some special chant I have to do?
A couple of other posts posted some nonsense about STP not really being the right software to use for recording VO or audio in...that is a highly suspect statement.
If not now...in STP 2 (which I have on order).

A couple of things . . . first, make sure you have the right information on this unit being "hot pluggable" or not. The M-Audio units are not. You have to be powered down to plug them in and unplug them. You can do some real damage if not done correctly. Second, and with the unit plugged in, and before Soundtrack is open, try choosing the audio input with system preferences. Then open up Soundtrack and see if the option is available.
I know this sounds strange, but STP isn't a full featured DAW the way Logic is . . . and even Garageband to some degree. Some of this will change in version 2, but not all.

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I cannot configure my pc to 5.1 in the CONTROL PANEL.I've even installed the latest driver and 5.1 still doesn't show in the window,only stereo.
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Hey Guys,
I have an Edirol FA-101 but i'm just about to get a Focusrite Saffire (or maybe a Motu 8pre...haven't decided yet) and was wondering if I can run the 2 interfaces at the same time for more inputs...i know i can chain 2 of the edirol ones but i'm not sure if it works with different makes.
Thanks

so I actually did get myself a focusrite saffire pro 26 and it's pretty cool (apart from the focusrite computer side interface that seems to have a few bugs when you control by hardware...)
I'm probably gonna get myself an octopre or a twintrack pro to make use of at least some of the extra digital inputs but for now I have the semi redundant Edirol FA-101 in my rack, if I can get the two working together then that's great!
I have tried what you said and it did pair them together however it made a really awful noise when trying to record, just intense digital distortion and i'm not really sure why. I'm running it all from a macbook pro with only one FW port (that has the Saffire / Edirol / FW Hard drive / Liquid Mix running from it in that order) do you think this order is more the problem?
Dave

FA-101 difficulties

My new Edirol FA-101 is exhibiting some strange behaviour. In device listings (eg sound prefs) it shows as 'EDIROL FA-101 (0755)', and in some applications it doesn't get listed at all. in AM setup in has several channels recognised but inactive/greyed out, and it is not properly usable in Garage Band
The '0755' suggests to me that it may have something to do with Unix file permissions, but I'm at a loss as to where to look

Hi michaelgc
I see that someone (probably you) posted on the Edirol site with the same problem.
In that nobody else seems so far to have this problem, have you considered returning it under warranty?
Luck-
-DaddyPaycheck

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