Edit as PSD or TIFF?

I was reading a book on digital photography and it said one should make changes to images in TIFF format, because it's lossless. Is the native Photoshop format, PSD, also just as good and as safe?

Testing, Testing, One...Two
As I never use 16 bit images I'll have to take Peter's word for it (although all he says is see what happens...). However I do use reasonably large 8 bit images. In fact I'm working on a poster for a client just now. The dimensions are 13200px x 20400px. It contains 54 layers including photographic images, text layers, styled text, smart objects and vector graphics imported from Illustrator.
I just tried three save as... operations. One to Photoshop, one TIFF with LZW and one TIFF with ZIP compression. Each of the save as operations began with a first step of saving composite images and each took about 45 seconds. Then the file saving began...
Photoshop format took only 28 seconds to save the file... 840.2 mb.
TIFF LZW took 2:10 to save the file... 374.2 mb.
TIFF ZIP took 21:04 to save the file... 364.8 mb.
I'll use the TIFF LZW when I don't specifically need the PSD format.

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I did a little reading on this and this is what I have found so far:
Deke McClelland in Adobe Photoshop CS2 one-on-one states:
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"TIFF is used to exchange files between applications and computer platforms. TIFF is a flexible format supported by virtually all pain, image-editing, and page-layout applications. Also, virtually all destop scanners can produce TIFF images.
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Apple Aperture 1.5 by Mike Cuenca:
"PSD: The Photoshop proprietary format is widely used by digital imaging professionals because it supports the storage of alpha channels and layers. Aperture will preserve this extra data byt will not display the layers or channels. PSD files are not compressed, and although they are intended for use within Photoshop, they are becoming more widely accepted outside Photoshop."
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Never make any changes of any sort to the contents of the iPhoto library including saving photos directly into it - they must be imported
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I would like to confirm about:
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thanks and regards

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I suppose I do not understand how Aperture saves processed RAW photos then; in iPhoto by contrast, the default saves them as JPEG unless the TIFF option is selected.
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All editing is always done starting from the RAW file and adding all adjustments. You will see the resulting image in the browser, but the rendered image file will only be created when you need it outside Aperture, and then you can select a suitable export preset. Edited image versions do not take up much extra space, only for thumbnails and optional JPEG previews.

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I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum to post this request, but I figured that this was the best place to ask.
These feature requests better be placed in the correct location:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family
You also might get a better answer but I'm not sure what way you need to leave comments and notes. You already have the option to label and rate the files and of course you have the IPTC Metadata to leave comments in (e.g. IPTC status / instructions).
As for the request to view layers, that would be nice but certainly not easy to realize. But it might be useful to extend this request in more detail, about how would you see them. Currently the preview window has a max of 9 files to view in one panel, would you see them scrollable or together in one window? Some layers have only masks or brush corrections in masks, would you see them in the same way as in PS using alt click on a mask?
The more detailed you make your feature request the better chance in getting more votes and better replies in possibility etc.

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The preferences panel says that TIFF is more efficient for metadata.
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Say farewell to PSD. The TIFF format provides everything that the legacy PSD provides. I also believe that TIFF ZIP compression provides better disk savings at the expense of more processor time.
I use TIFF exclusively both within Lightroom and Photoshop. One annoying feature of some of my older PSD files is that before I can import them to Lightroom I have to re-save them with maximum file compatibility. I don't bother and just save them as TIFF.

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Look in the layers palette, see if the type is editable, there should be a 'T' visible.
Otherwise the layer has been rasterised or flattened. If rasterised you can delete the layer and use the type tool to recreate the button's text.

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Perfect. I changed the mode to RGB and it worked. I had already confirmed the layers were all rasterized. Thank you for your help.

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Thanks Bob, to date I have simply used the High Quality Print default, which is actually Acrobat 4 (PDF 1.3) - I have never had issues before - until now when I upgraded my software..

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To get started, I'm on LR 5.2RC and Photoshop CS6. All software is up to date and both ACR's are the same at 8.2. And my source files are all JPEG's.
When I select the "Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS6" option on an image, I get the proper "What to Edit" pop-up window and have the option to edit a copy with LR adjustments, edit a copy, or edit original. My problem is that no matter what option I choose, LR will make a copy of the image as a JPG (rather than a PSD) and send that to Photoshop.
I've gone to LR preferences and tried changing the file format option to TIFF to see if that would work, but same problem...LR still makes a JPG and sends that to PS.
Any thoughts on how to fix this?

It sounds to me as if you may be selecting a user-saved external editing preset rather than the built-in Edit in PS option.
PSD / TIFF / JPG are the filetype options for the former, but the latter only allows PSD / TIFF.
If so, such a preset includes a selection of file format, bit depth and colourspace that may differ from the selection seen in the upper part of the External Editing dialog. This preset may not currently appear in the lower part of this dialog either.
The lower part of this dialog is used as a workbench for managing as many editing setup options as you like. These can be named and saved as a preset, or recalled for adjustment and re-saving (update), using the "Preset:" menu.
The "Edit in PS" context menu when used within e.g. Develop, will show any named editing presets you have made below (but only if successfully auto-configured) a built-in "Edit in PS" option which is controlled by the upper part of the dialog mentioned above. The built-in option is not dependent on any user preset. One indication that LR has not properly configured itself for the presence of your PS, is if the additional options (Panorama, HDR, as Layers) do not appear when you highlight more than one image and select Edit in...
This configuration apparently can be "broken" by uninstalling an earlier version of PS, which removes some system configuration that the later PS would be relying on for its LR partnering. Or I guess there may be other causes.
IIRC, usually the answer to that, is a "repair" reinstall of PS - which LR should then properly recognise.
One comment: if PS and LR are configured as "aligned" versions, it is normal to meanwhile see the filetype of the source image file as the document window title within your PS session - even if that source file is Raw, which is not something you can in fact edit using PS. This rather misleading IMO document title, collapses down to an actual proper filename only once the document has been Saved from PS - or if you close PS without saving, no actual file is made at all.
Only then is LR's suggestion of filetype, filename and saving location (as configured in LR's external editing options) implemented for real - though if you instead select Save As, those suggestions can all be overridden by the user, and LR should still auto-import the resulting brand new file.
OTOH, if you are using any external editing preset or if ACR+LR versions are not aligned, the file you see inside PS is always one which has already been saved (and already auto-imported to LR).

Compatibility between LR 1.3, ACR 4.3, PScs3, & Bridge CS3 to read metadata in psd or tiff files

I would like Bridge, ACR, and PS to be able to read the metadata of pds/tiff files that are "developed" in LR when the metadata has been saved to the file inside of LR. Currently BridgeCS3, ACR 4.3, and PS CS3 don't see these changes.
The only way around this that I have found is to export or edit in PS option - both of which give you a new file. I don't want a new file - I want the original file (psd tiff) that was imported into LR to have the ability to be updated with the changes made in LR.
I have found that when you export the psd from LR it essentially flatens the image so you will no longer have access to any layers done in PS. Depending on how many edits you perform, whether they are done LR or PS, and the order in which you do them in directly impacts the amount of edit files you will end up with for the same photo. Your edit information then becomes scattered amongst all the different files instead of having one central file as a repository for the edits so you can backtrack if you need to (like through layers in PS and the history panel in LR).
I really like the LR interface and being able to drag with the different tools directly on the photo to edit. I just would like those changes to be reflected (once metadata is saved) amongst the other programs as well.

I have tried saving XML files with Tiffs and the only way I have been able to get Bridge to see the metadata changes from LR's develop module is to export the file to PS or Bridge. On export the file becomes flattened so you do not have the access to any previous layers made in PS. Also once exported from LR, you are unable to see the files history log (LR) as to the changes made in LR that had been previously written to the metadata. And of course the flattened PS element so you have no way to back track in edits if you chose to do so.

Cannot open PSD or TIFF files in Camera Raw

I made a picture in HRD Pro, and i want to work on it. I saved it as a .psd and also as a .tif, but I cannot open nor the .psd, nor the .tif in Camera Raw? If I save it as a .Jpg I already lose quality..?
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PSD files in Camera Raw:
1.— Stay the heck away from Bridge!
2.— Instead of right-clicking on anything, go to Photoshop's File menu and Select the Open menu item.
In the dialog box that opens, find your PSD file, select it, then go down to the bottom of the box and select Camera Raw in the dropdown menu next to Format:
TIFF files in Camera Raw:
Just make sure to enable TIFF support in Camera Raw Preferences, then open it like you open any JPEG or raw file:
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