Edit in External Editor (photoshop)?

I want to do a quick edit of an image in my new version of photoshop and when I select the image in the Album or in the Published Album Aperture is not giving me an option to Photo > Edit in External Editor because this is greyed out for some reason.
I have most of the manual printed out over here and found some threads on this in iPhoto forum but to be frank I am getting a little tired of some of the secret cubbies and locks I keep running across and I am afraid that if I just read the manual I will spend another two days trying to get this to work.
I imagine this is very straightforward and would anyone mind giving me a heads up on how to do this? I just want to black out a section where my background shows the wall instead of the black curtain supposed to be used as background...
TIA for any help.

You can set Photoshop as your external editor in Aperture > Preferences > Export > Choose. It's on page 472 of the manual.
If you have downloaded the pdf of the Aperture 3 User Manual, you can use it interactively in Preview. I think you will find that you can get answers for most things much faster by using Preview's search window for the Aperture manual than by asking in Communities.
If you are printing out the manual from the web version rather than having the pdf you can download it here.
http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/Aperture%203%20User%20Manu al%20(en).pdf

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Aperture - Edit with External Editor - Photoshop

Hi,
I recently made my first attempt via Aperture to "Edit with External Editor" and in my case I have the preferences set to export to Photoshop CS4 Extended. The External Editor File Format (in preferences) selected is TIFF and as advised by Apple's Help menu this is set at 16-bit. The External Editor Color Spaces is set to Adobe-RGB (1998).
I selected an image with some barrel distortion, hit the export button, and Aperture sent the new master to Photoshop. I did my fixing and saved. This automatically sends the updated file to Aperture. This is very handy and practical but I was shocked to see the size of the new and fixed file. The original file was a JPEG at 4MB and the new fixed file was a colossal 200+ MB file. I ended up throwing away the new file - too large.
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
Thanks for your advice and help.
Chau

Chau wrote:
I am just wondering if this is normal? This is my first time using the Edit with External Editor in Aperture and I am also quite clueless about using Photoshop efficiently and properly. Could I have done something differently and received the new and fixed file at a smaller size?
This is normal.
TIFF files get rather large and the 200 MB sounds about right. If I send a 1.63 MB JPEG at the same settings in PS CS5, I get a 134 MB TIFF after applying the Lens Correction filter and saving.
If I send the same file as a TIFF 8-bit in Adobe-RGB (1998), I get back a 54.73 MB file.
You could therefore send as an 8-bit TIFF to reduce the size. Additionally, the PSD format tends to return a slightly smaller file size (51.xx MB in the case here).
A JPEG file is actually only an 8-bit file, so it isn't really necessary to go to 16-bit, but many users like to protect against further degradation of the JPEG when editing externally (especially from posterization where smooth gradients - such as a sky - start to break down into visible steps in the color transition).
I personally send as TIFF 8-bit in the sRGB color space and if the image shows degradation, then I might change to the TIFF 16-bit (or simply not use that image).

Photoshop and elements 13 Working in iPhoto Want to edit image using photoshop elements Did the following IPhoto Preferences Advanced Edit Photos: In drop down menu chose in Photoshop Elements Also control click and chose edit in external editor Drop

Photoshop and elements 13
Working in iPhoto
Want to edit image using photoshop elements
Did the following
IPhoto>Preferences>Advanced>Edit Photos: In drop down menu chose in Photoshop Elements
Also control click and chose edit in external editor
Drop down menu edit photos in external program>photoshop Elements
Go to to the image I'm working on --- selected the image, the clicked on edit. When nothing happened I double clicked the image. Still elements didn't open. Then I opened the Elements editor, went back to iphoto and tried the entire process again. the photo still didn't open on Elements 13 for editing.
I have 3 Elements 13 books as well as looked on line--all my references say the exact same thing ---- iPhoto>Preferences>advanced>edit in external program>photoshop Elements
I uninstalled and reinstalled both iPhoto as well as Elements.
I spoke with application technical support. There appears to be nothing wrong with my copy of iPhoto. However there is no support from Adobe. I waited for over 1.5 hours for chat support several days ago, and finally gave up.

You are probably choosing the obvious file rather than the correct file as the PSE editor. The actual editor is hidden away inside the Support Files folder. The PSE file at the top level of the PSE folder in Applications is just an alias for the welcome screen and what you're describing is exactly what happens when you choose that. You want this one:

How do you edit photos with photoshop from the new Photos app? The edit in external editor menu item seems to be gone.

How do you edit photos with photoshop from the new Photos app? The edit in external editor menu item seems to be gone.

Tell Apple what additional features you want in Photos via both http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html and http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html since they don't have a feedback page for Photos as yet.

IPhoto '11 duplicates when editing in external editor

What the topic says. iPhoto automatically creates a duplicate, that actually shows up as a duplicate in the library, when you choose to edit a photo in an external editor (such as Photoshop). It used to just replace the original, thus showing only the edited version (though keeping the original file if you want to go back to it), which is exactly what happens if you choose to just edit in iPhoto.
Bug? Feature?

Same problem. I edit in external editor (PSE) and an edited copy shows up as well as the original. I highlite the edited copy and try to revert to original and nothing happens. I send the edited copy to the trash and empty the trash, highlite the original again and choose edit in external editor and the edited version pops up again as if I had never trashed it.
Another annoying issue: I really don't want to mess around with slide shows but am forced to if I want to look at a photo in full screen view. iPhoto 09, full screen view meant, highlite a photo, full screen view, photo shows up in full screen. Simple and exactly what I want. Now full screen simply means the left column disappears and I'm looking at a full screen of thumb nails. What good is that? OK, so I'll play that game. Select slide show, window pops up the first time asking for slide show settings. Select classic instead of disolve and check that as the default. Every single event that window pops up asking me for slide show settings even though I have selected my defaults. I have something like 850 events and I got very annoyed selecting classic as my default every single time. And why do they imagine I want to listen to music? I clone mt hard drive once a week and have a copy of my drive with iPhoto 09 on it. I'm going back to 09.

Edit in External Editor does not work

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I added as External Editor Photoshop CS3, but no matter what option I chose as file format, bit depth or color space, Lightroom will always apply the defaul setting in "Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS3" preference tab, rather than the one I select.
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Thanks

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IPhoto 11 bug when using external editor (Photoshop Elements)

In iPhoto 11, my iPhoto database is confused/corrupted whenever I edit a picture in my external editor (Photoshop Elements 8). I believe this is an iPhoto problem because the picture is not corrupted until I quit iPhoto try to re-open the edited version.
Steps I take:
1. Pick a file, and "Edit in External Editor". Duplicate of the file is made (ThisPic.jpg becomes ThisPic_2.jpg), and that duplicate is opened in PSE. I edit the photo in PSE, and hit Save - PSE updates ThisPic_2.jpg. I close PSE, go back to iPhoto, and I can do whatever I want to the file - double click to view larger, export, everything seems fine. When I pick "File | Reveal in Finder" and use either the "modified file" or "original file" option, they take me to ThisPic_2.jpg in the finder.
2. Close iPhoto
3. Re-open iPhoto
4. Now, that file seems to be corrupt in iPhoto. I can see the thumbnail image for ThisPic_2.jpg, but nothing else works. I double click on the file, and I get a black screen with a triangle and an exclamation point in it. When I try to export the file, nothing happens.
The interesting thing is when I go into "File | Reveal in Finder". When I pick the "modified file", it doesn't seem to find it - I am shown the root of my hard drive in the finder. But when I pick "original file", it takes me to ThisPic_2.jpg, and I can use preview to see that my edits are still there.
I copied that file to the desktop, re-imported it into iPhoto, and I can access that photo again through iPhoto - everything works, even after I close and re-open iPhoto.
I reported this through the iPhoto Feedback option. I thought I'd share what I found in case it helps anyone else.

Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I get the same response when I follow your workflow. If you select the thumbnail of that photo and use the Photos ➙ Revert to Original menu option you will be able to view the photo in full size.
Evidently editing in iPhoto with an external editor puts the edits on the duplicated original file and puts that file in the same Masters subfolder as the first file was imported into. Once iPhoto is restarted the links are messed up and the Revert gets rid of the "edited" link and keeps the link to the file in the Masters folder.
It definitely is a bug. However, it's not taking up more space on the hard drive than the edit that resulted in a modified file linked to the original file. There still are just two files.
Subsequent edits to the file with the external editor result is the edits being added to the file with no problems if iPhoto is closed and relaunched. The downside is that if you make 3 edits to the file you can't go back one edit. It's non reversible. The edited version can be deleted leaving the untouched original version.
Subsequent edits to the same file with iPhoto work as usual, with a modified version being created.
So Old Toad, I have just gone from iPhoto 9 to iPhoto 11 and step by step this is what is happening for me.
In iPhoto 9 if I selected photoshop to alter an image it created one duplicate version of the image and put that into the modified folder and that edited image became the image you would see in the events viewer. All very logical.
Now iPhoto 11 is doing the same for me but is creating multiple duplicates ie. everytime I select photoshop to edit an image. One image I edited recently has now got 6 versions in the library. If that is the way iPhoto works then that will be fine as it is doing it's job for me but the caviat is have I got 6 times the memory space being used up or does it just appear that way? If the memory space useage isn't being increased then I am OK with this new way of doing things but if the memory space is being used up then it is a fiasco - especially as apple are concentrating on writing their systems to use up less space than before in line with current thinking.
Look forward to you clarifying this point if you can.

"edit in external editor" doesn't work for me

Hello,
I am having trouble getting iPhoto to allow me to edit in an external editor.
I went to preferences and chose Photoshop CS3 as my external editor and I set my "double clicks photo" to "edits photos", but when I try to right click and "edit in external editor" I click on it but nothing happens.
I also tried leaving PS CS3 open but still nothing happens.
Also, when I try to double click to edit the photo, nothing happens either. Even if I set iPhoto to "edit in main window" it doesn't go to edit mode by double clicking.
I'm not really sure what the problem is, so if somebody can help me understand this, that would be great.

yurickim:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. First delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder and try again. If that doesn't help log into another account and try there. If you don't have a second account create one as it's a great troubleshooting too. It it works in the second account there's something amiss with your current account. It could be a bad preference file, other than iPhoto's, that could be causing the problem. Here's how to verify if that's the case:
Trouble Shooting Preferences in Leopard
1 - Create a folder titled "Preferences A" on the Desktop.
2 - Open the working Preferences folder, HD/Users/your_name/Library/Preferences, and move the contents to the Preferences A folder on the Desktop.
3 - Make a duplicate copy of the Preferences A folder on the Desktop as a precautionary backup.
4 - With the working Preferences folder empty run the application again and determine if the problems is fixed.
5 - If the problem is fixed:
A - open the working Preferences folder (HD/Users/your_name/Library/Preferences).
B - Open the Preferences A folder on the Desktop, select all of the contents and drag them into the working Preferences folder.
C - When the Copy window pops up check the "Apply to All" check box and then click on the Don't Replace button as seen here.
6 - If the problem is NOT fixed, empty the working Preferencess folder and move the contents of the Preferences folder on the desktop back into it.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries and Leopard. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

Exported images to external editor (Photoshop CS5) have missing adjustments

Hi All
Wonder if anyone knows the answer to this. Basically if I select a image that has Aperture adjustments applied to it and edit in external editor (in my case CS5) the image opens without the adjustments, however if I export the image say to the desktop then open them in CS5 it is fine. The adjustments I made in aperture are contrast, curve vibrancy etc and some brush adjustments. Also I have heard that the sharpening brush adjustment is not exported ? Running a iMac on 10.6.4 and Aperture 3.0.3
Any help would be much appreciated.
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If I take an image with a large number of adjustments including all the ones you've listed above, multiple brushes etc. and click open in CS5, Aperture takes a reasonable while to process the image, creates a psd with all the adjustments applied and then opens the 16 bit 300 dpi psd file in photoshop. So what you are describing is not a universal bug as it's been working as it should every time on my machine.
It may be a slight library corruption from your side.Your last description of long and short process times is telling. Have you done the basic checks? Rebuild database, check library permissions, ensure that the images in question on online if referenced etc?
Fill us in a little bit more about your setup - can you tell a difference between the images it works on and those it doesn't (RAW or jpeg, what flavour of RAW, referenced or managed, same camera or different) - and we'll see if we can help you further.
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Can't export images edited with external editor

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Don't know if this has any bearing but the problem is on my wife's iMac, not my MacPro.
Any clues to the source of the problem will be appreciated.

Thanks TD for your input. While I could not get the rebuild to work (it would show 97% done then hang up), it helped me isolate the problem. I ended up deleting all the images that were edited by PS CS4 then tried to do the rebuild again. Still no luck. I then opened the file sans the edited PS images and it worked.
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Edit in External Editor Oddity

After using Photoshop Elements to make some edits to a photo I'll save it, close it and come back to iPhoto. Oddly, the edits don't appear when viewing the photo back in iPhoto (in any of the edit options: Edit, Edit in Separate Window, Edit in Fullscreen) but the changes do appear if I Edit in External Editor or export the image.
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Murray:
You are making sure you're saving as a jpg file and not a psd file, right?
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
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"Edit in External Editor" PSE 13

I've recently upgraded Photoshop Elements to version 13.0. In iPhoto (9.5.1) I have set the preferences to Edit Photos: in Photoshop Elements (the 13 icon.
Now from a control-click "edit in external editor" selection the action opens PSE13, but no photo is transferred for editing as was the case in the earlier version. Is this no longer supported - or have I missed a set-up step?

If PSE13 is installed similar to PSE 10 look for a folder inside the Adobe Photoshop Elements 13 folder called Support Files and select Adobe Photoshope Elements Editor.app.
FWIW the following may be of help in using PSE as the external editor with iPhoto:
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Screenshots are from PSE 10
Note 1: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
Note 2: editing a RAW file with either PSE or PS creates a new file which must be saved outside of iPhoto, i.e. the Desktop, and imported as a new photo into the iPhoto Library.

Edit in External Editor only accepts a limited number of photos

I occasionally want to edit a number of photos from my iPhoto library in an external editor (Photoshop). I have properly configured (as far as I know) the "Edit in external editor" setting, and it works correctly when I select a single photo. When I batch select multiple photos, the results vary: regardless of how many photos I select, Photoshop will only open somewhere between 1 and 4 of them. It seems to do better with shift+click to select rather than cmd+click, but in no case will it open more than 4 photos. Much of the time it will only open 2 photos, even if I have selected 7 or 8.
Is there a way to open an arbitrary number of photos in an external editor?
I'm using iPhoto 7.1.5 on OS 10.5.8. The external editor is Photoshop CS3.

No there isn't. You can't send more than four at a time I'm afraid.
Regards
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Quality of "Edit in External Editor"

If I right click a photo and choose "Edit in External Editor" am I getting the original copy sent over to Photoshop or am I getting a dumbed down version?

Yes, you are working on the original file unless you've edited the photo previously in iPhoto. Then you'll be working on the modfied version in your external editor. If you do the correct method the edited version will be saved as the modified jpeg file in iPhoto thus preserving the original as the digital negative. This is what I'm referring to as the correct method:
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
OT

Photos edited in external editor are huge..

If I edit a photo in an external editor (Photoshop CS5), the file is saved as an PSD file. This one is about 50 times bigger than the original. Is it possible to convert the file to a JPG after editing so it will use less disk space?

I've done this many times in iPhoto and it still works in there although I MUST flatten before saving back to iPhoto, However, Aperature is not doing this for me. I've tried flattening it and saving it as is and the file in Aperature gets duplicated like it's supposed to but the appearance of it does not change. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe it's in the settings? Maybe there is a glitch in my system. Maybe it's Elements 8 and not Aperature. I don't know and I'm getting frustrated.
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