Edit In external editors moves original image and returns edited image to end of filmstrip

When I edit an image from Lightroom 5.7 in an external editor such as Photoshop or Portraiture I want the original image to keep its place in the filmstrip and I want the returned edited image to join it in a stack at that location. Instead, the original image gets moved to the end of the filmstrip and the edited one is returned to stack with it at the end of the filmstrip.
Upon Import I don't know if my images are sorted by filename or time created because both are in the same order coming from the camera.
Thank you.
LR 5.7 CC, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

Have a look at the toolbar above the film strip. Ensure the sort order is set to capture time and not edit time.
Click the tiny triangle symbols to see all the sort options.
If the toolbar is not immediately visible press the T key once or twice to toggle on/off. The drop down arrow to the far right of the toolbar lets you choose what items are shown.

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