Edit in Photoshop as TIFF?

I am a new Lightroom user and am quickly learning to love the program. One thing that I find myself having to do it do some editing in Photoshop for large cloning jobs and removing things. Specifically, I am replacing a background from a recent maternity session.
When I use the Edit in Photostop option, the file always opens up in Photoshop (CS5) as a TIFF file. Then, when I am complete, the edited TIFF file is available in Lightroom. Now, I understand that the TIFF file is a lossless format similar to RAW. But, I am curious if I am limiting or hindering myself by processing the now-adjusted TIFF file vs the original RAW file.
Am I missing anything by doing this? Or should I do all Lightroom processing before I move to Photoshop to edit? There are times where I find myself needing to make further adjustments to the edited TIFF file.

it is impossible to edit raw image data in Photoshop. That is why Photoshop requires the Camera Raw plug-in. The typical Photoshop workflow is to open raw images in Camera Raw and do as much work as possible there. Then it is dermosaiced and sent to Photoshop. Any additional work done in Photoshop is not done on raw image data. When you had Lightroom to the workflow, Lightroom simply replaces Camera Raw as the raw image editor. So you really don't have any choice. Your Photoshop work has to be done the way you are doing it now.
Since you are using Photoshop CS5, the Camera Raw plug-in is not able to translate and convert all of the raw image adjustments done in Lightroom. So that is why the TIF file needs to be created first and sent to Photoshop. If Lightroom and Photoshop were both current and on equal version status the saving of the TIF isn't done until the end of the Photoshop session. But the makeup of the image data you work on in Photoshop is still the same. It has been converted and is no longer raw image data.

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